On Sun, 2015-12-06 at 19:52 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sun, 6 Dec 2015 15:50:10 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > but what is the reason for maintainers building updates without the > > intention to push them? > > There are maintainers, who dislike a lot of things related to the release > processes. They consider bodhi a pain to use. They would prefer doing > things differently, with less work, and more like fire'n'forget as how > they do it within Rawhide.
That doesn't really add up. Auto-karma is the *default* in Bodhi. The maintainer had to take specific action to disable it. If they want things to be fire-and-forget, why disable auto-karma? > Currently I have two security fixes, which are two months old. Nobody > does the needed testing. The karma isn't reached. If they're two months old, they can certainly be pushed with 0 karma. The longest *any* update for *any* distro has to wait before it can be pushed without karma is 2 weeks. > Nobody ensures that > they enter the stable updates repo even with 0 karma. Meanwhile, F21 > has reached end-of-life without anyone making sure to do a last push > of security fixes for it. I've never understood why the idea of a 'last push of security fixes' for an EOL release makes any sense. It's *EOL*. It doesn't matter if there's a last-day push or not: everyone should stop using it the next day, end of story. That's what EOL means. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org