On Sun, 2015-12-06 at 19:52 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Dec 2015 15:50:10 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
> 
> > but what is the reason for maintainers building updates without the 
> > intention to push them?
> 
> There are maintainers, who dislike a lot of things related to the release
> processes. They consider bodhi a pain to use. They would prefer doing
> things differently, with less work, and more like fire'n'forget as how
> they do it within Rawhide.

That doesn't really add up. Auto-karma is the *default* in Bodhi. The
maintainer had to take specific action to disable it. If they want
things to be fire-and-forget, why disable auto-karma?

> Currently I have two security fixes, which are two months old. Nobody
> does the needed testing. The karma isn't reached.

If they're two months old, they can certainly be pushed with 0 karma.
The longest *any* update for *any* distro has to wait before it can be
pushed without karma is 2 weeks.

>  Nobody ensures that
> they enter the stable updates repo even with 0 karma. Meanwhile, F21
> has reached end-of-life without anyone making sure to do a last push
> of security fixes for it.

I've never understood why the idea of a 'last push of security fixes'
for an EOL release makes any sense. It's *EOL*. It doesn't matter if
there's a last-day push or not: everyone should stop using it the next
day, end of story. That's what EOL means.
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