On 21/12/15 01:36, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
I'm currently looking into using npm v3 with nodejs v4. The problem I've
run into is that npm is apparently part of the main nodejs package which
effectively joins them at the hip for no apparent good reason.
Upstream ships npm with nodejs because they need npm to bootstrap the
environment and cannot rely on a higher level dependency mechanism
because there is none. As a result they encourage to simply install a
new npm by replacing the old one.
In an rpm based environment however this does not work because the files
are owned by the rpm and any reinstall or update will overwrite these
files again with the ones from the rpm. On the other hand rpm has its
own dependency resolution so the bootstrapping issue doesn't exists.
As a result I would like to see npm separated from nodejs so that
alternative versions can be installed in the same way that some packages
require a mail transfer agent but not a specific one.
For nodejs this would mean that by default the npm version that is now
bundled gets pulled in by default but that the user has the option to
specify an explicit package (like npm v3) that can satisfy the npm
dependency.
I'm not really sure what exactly it is you're asking here...
Who exactly is it that you want to "separate" npm from nodejs? Fedora
already ignores the npm that is bundled with nodejs and instead packages
it by packaging all the modules that make up npm directly from their own
sources, with a seprate srpm for each module.
As far as nodejs 4 / npm 3 goes we (the Node.js SIG referred to in
Peter's answer) are already working on it - we have nodejs 4.2.3 built
in a side tag and are working on the npm stack currently. Current
working status of the npm dependency stack update is at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Node.js/npm_update_status
But as Peter said, the nodejs list is probably the best place to ask any
questions.
Tom
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