On Tue, 23 Dec 2008, Greg Smith wrote: > Hi Bert, > > That strategy sounds good to me if its easy. You still need a custom > "image" because the end result should be something which can be quickly > installed on 10K or more XOs via: > - USB > - olpc-update over WAN or from XS > - NAND Blaster > > That said, making it an activity would make it easy to use the existing > customization key. > > How hard is it to do what you suggest? Would you be interested in making > a "Cmap running inside X window activity" .xo bundle?
would this end up duplicating the 'X window activity' into each similar application? David Lang > I think that would simplify the discussion with them and clarify how it > might work. > > Thanks, > > Greg S > > Bert Freudenberg wrote: >> The better approach would be to install everything into the bundle >> directory itself. Then simply zip it and you should have a working xo >> bundle. A custom build should not be necessary for this. >> >> - Bert - >> >> On 23.12.2008, at 21:35, Greg Smith wrote: >> >>> Hi Bert, >>> >>> Thanks. It was actually right click for me but that did it. >>> >>> I installed the Cmap tools from within the X activity and it mostly >>> worked. >>> >>> A few oddities in the X activity like the arrow keys not working but >>> nothing fatal. >>> >>> I'll follow up with the Cmap people and see if they can move it ahead >>> some more. >>> >>> Dan, >>> >>> Here's a good use case for the "image customization" feature. To >>> install Cmap, I open the X activity, downloaded a zip, then unpacked >>> it which created a bin file. I made that executable and ran it which >>> launched an installer which installed Java and some other stuff into a >>> directory I chose (data). I also assume they would want to tweak the X >>> activity initrc file to make it launch Cmap automatically. The whole >>> thing is within a Rainbow instance but I believe its re-usable if its >>> in the data directory. >>> >>> Would your customization stick strategy allow me to make this whole >>> thing part of an image installable on many XOs as described? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Greg S >>> >>> Bert Freudenberg wrote: >>>> Click to bring up a menu and open a terminal. >>>> Alternatively, edit the ".xinitrc" file to auto-launch any X >>>> applications you want started ("xterm &" is a common choice) before >>>> executing the window manager. This is also how you would bundle and >>>> launch a regular X app like cmap. >>>> - Bert - >>>> On 23.12.2008, at 16:34, Greg Smith wrote: >>>>> Hi Michael and Bert, >>>>> >>>>> It got quiet enough that I had a chance to try this myself. >>>>> >>>>> I tried installing and running the X activity and I tried following >>>>> the instructions here: >>>>> http://www.hackszine.com/blog/archive/2007/12/run_a_nested_x11_desktop_on_th.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In both cases I got a gray screen with a "bar" showing "Workspace" >>>>> with two triangles next to it (left and right facing) on the left >>>>> side of the bar and the time with the same triangles on the right side. >>>>> >>>>> I didn't see my pointer in the Hackfest version but I did in the X >>>>> window version. In both cases I didn't see any place to enter text >>>>> (e.g. a window). Am I missing something? >>>>> >>>>> I was hoping to get an X window with a prompt so I could install >>>>> CMap tools from there. >>>>> >>>>> Any suggestions appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Greg S >>>>> >>>>> Greg Smith wrote: >>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>> Picking up this old thread >>>>>> (http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-September/018835.html) >>>>>> I want to move this forward again. >>>>>> There is a beta version of a smaller Linux implementation of CMap >>>>>> tools now. Download it from here: >>>>>> http://cmap.ihmc.us/download/cmaplite.php >>>>>> Does anyone have time to try running this inside of the X windows >>>>>> activity mentioned below? >>>>>> While we have some traction on other concept map tools (thanks >>>>>> Tomeu for Labrynth), CMap is "incumbent" in a number of countries >>>>>> and I want to figure out how close we are to supporting it. It will >>>>>> affect our ability to get XOs and Sugar in to more schools systems >>>>>> so its certainly valuable work. >>>>>> Let me know if anyone has a chance to try this out and document >>>>>> what it will take to make it work. >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Greg S >>>>>> ************* >>>>>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Bert Freudenberg <bert at >>>>>> freudenbergs.de> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Am 04.09.2008 um 01:06 schrieb Michael Stone: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 05:33:28PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: >>>>>>>>> Has anyone tried making the activity which is X-windows and inside >>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>> other activities can run? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [1] and [2] seem apropos. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Michael >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [1]: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7768#comment:8 >>>>>>>> [2]: >>>>>> http://www.hackszine.com/blog/archive/2007/12/run_a_nested_x11_desktop_on_th.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I couldn't resist making an activity for that: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/X >>>>>> Anybody has any idea about how to make xephyr use the clipboard of the >>>>>> external X server? DND may be even harder. >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Tomeu >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel