On 24.12.2008, at 00:16, da...@lang.hm wrote: > On Tue, 23 Dec 2008, Greg Smith wrote: > >> Hi Bert, >> >> That strategy sounds good to me if its easy. You still need a custom >> "image" because the end result should be something which can be >> quickly >> installed on 10K or more XOs via: >> - USB >> - olpc-update over WAN or from XS >> - NAND Blaster >> >> That said, making it an activity would make it easy to use the >> existing >> customization key. >> >> How hard is it to do what you suggest? Would you be interested in >> making >> a "Cmap running inside X window activity" .xo bundle? > > would this end up duplicating the 'X window activity' into each > similar application?
Yes. - Bert - > David Lang > >> I think that would simplify the discussion with them and clarify >> how it >> might work. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Greg S >> >> Bert Freudenberg wrote: >>> The better approach would be to install everything into the bundle >>> directory itself. Then simply zip it and you should have a working >>> xo >>> bundle. A custom build should not be necessary for this. >>> >>> - Bert - >>> >>> On 23.12.2008, at 21:35, Greg Smith wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Bert, >>>> >>>> Thanks. It was actually right click for me but that did it. >>>> >>>> I installed the Cmap tools from within the X activity and it mostly >>>> worked. >>>> >>>> A few oddities in the X activity like the arrow keys not working >>>> but >>>> nothing fatal. >>>> >>>> I'll follow up with the Cmap people and see if they can move it >>>> ahead >>>> some more. >>>> >>>> Dan, >>>> >>>> Here's a good use case for the "image customization" feature. To >>>> install Cmap, I open the X activity, downloaded a zip, then >>>> unpacked >>>> it which created a bin file. I made that executable and ran it >>>> which >>>> launched an installer which installed Java and some other stuff >>>> into a >>>> directory I chose (data). I also assume they would want to tweak >>>> the X >>>> activity initrc file to make it launch Cmap automatically. The >>>> whole >>>> thing is within a Rainbow instance but I believe its re-usable if >>>> its >>>> in the data directory. >>>> >>>> Would your customization stick strategy allow me to make this whole >>>> thing part of an image installable on many XOs as described? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Greg S >>>> >>>> Bert Freudenberg wrote: >>>>> Click to bring up a menu and open a terminal. >>>>> Alternatively, edit the ".xinitrc" file to auto-launch any X >>>>> applications you want started ("xterm &" is a common choice) >>>>> before >>>>> executing the window manager. This is also how you would bundle >>>>> and >>>>> launch a regular X app like cmap. >>>>> - Bert - >>>>> On 23.12.2008, at 16:34, Greg Smith wrote: >>>>>> Hi Michael and Bert, >>>>>> >>>>>> It got quiet enough that I had a chance to try this myself. >>>>>> >>>>>> I tried installing and running the X activity and I tried >>>>>> following >>>>>> the instructions here: >>>>>> http://www.hackszine.com/blog/archive/2007/12/run_a_nested_x11_desktop_on_th.html >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> In both cases I got a gray screen with a "bar" showing >>>>>> "Workspace" >>>>>> with two triangles next to it (left and right facing) on the left >>>>>> side of the bar and the time with the same triangles on the >>>>>> right side. >>>>>> >>>>>> I didn't see my pointer in the Hackfest version but I did in >>>>>> the X >>>>>> window version. In both cases I didn't see any place to enter >>>>>> text >>>>>> (e.g. a window). Am I missing something? >>>>>> >>>>>> I was hoping to get an X window with a prompt so I could install >>>>>> CMap tools from there. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any suggestions appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Greg S >>>>>> >>>>>> Greg Smith wrote: >>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>> Picking up this old thread >>>>>>> (http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-September/018835.html >>>>>>> ) >>>>>>> I want to move this forward again. >>>>>>> There is a beta version of a smaller Linux implementation of >>>>>>> CMap >>>>>>> tools now. Download it from here: >>>>>>> http://cmap.ihmc.us/download/cmaplite.php >>>>>>> Does anyone have time to try running this inside of the X >>>>>>> windows >>>>>>> activity mentioned below? >>>>>>> While we have some traction on other concept map tools (thanks >>>>>>> Tomeu for Labrynth), CMap is "incumbent" in a number of >>>>>>> countries >>>>>>> and I want to figure out how close we are to supporting it. It >>>>>>> will >>>>>>> affect our ability to get XOs and Sugar in to more schools >>>>>>> systems >>>>>>> so its certainly valuable work. >>>>>>> Let me know if anyone has a chance to try this out and document >>>>>>> what it will take to make it work. >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Greg S >>>>>>> ************* >>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Bert Freudenberg <bert at >>>>>>> freudenbergs.de> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Am 04.09.2008 um 01:06 schrieb Michael Stone: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 05:33:28PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Has anyone tried making the activity which is X-windows and >>>>>>>>>> inside >>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>> other activities can run? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [1] and [2] seem apropos. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Michael >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [1]: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7768#comment:8 >>>>>>>>> [2]: >>>>>>> http://www.hackszine.com/blog/archive/2007/12/run_a_nested_x11_desktop_on_th.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I couldn't resist making an activity for that: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/X >>>>>>> Anybody has any idea about how to make xephyr use the >>>>>>> clipboard of the >>>>>>> external X server? DND may be even harder. >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Tomeu >>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Devel mailing list >> Devel@lists.laptop.org >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel >> _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel