On Sun, 17 May 2009 09:44:27 +1000 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 17 May 2009 00:47:19 +0200 "Michael 'Mickey' Lauer" > <[email protected]> said: > > > On Saturday 16 May 2009 22:45:34 Lorn Potter wrote: > > > It's about control. Do you think Nokia and Intel will allow > > > someone else to control their telephony stack development? > > > > Thanks for confirming my suspicion. I'm glad I work on something > > that's under the control of the community. > > > > > What I don't get is why people think it's bad to have more than > > > one open source 'solution'. If reinventing the wheel was bad, we > > > wouldn't have KDE, gnome, gtk, and even python, FSO and Linux, for > > > that matter. Reinventing the wheel, is _good_. > > > > Lorn, if you would really think this through... this is so wrong, I > > wonder how you can truly believe in that. I'm glad the this is a > > minorities' view. Anyways, since your opinion on that didn't change > > within the last 5 years, I will immediately stop commenting. > > sorry mickey. going to have to disagree with you here. and even YOU > disobey your own principles here. why use efl or evas, edje ... > elementary? hell! it's re-inventing the wheel! you should have stuck > to motif (well lesstif) as all that qt, gtk, etc is core > infrastructure that re-invented the wheel! god forbid anyone should > do that! > > regardless what software it is - everyone has the right and freedom > to compete. having any opinion to the contrary is entirely against > the open source ethos of freedom. > > don't get me wrong - my HEART is with FSO, but bashing a project with > "nih" labels is not rational. it's a personal thing. its the > disappointment and unhappiness that your solution (FSO) now has > direct and stiff competition and life will get hard, and there is a > good chance your project may die/fail as people defect to ofono. that > fear is justified and real. i understand it 100% and THAT is the real > reason behind expressing dislike of ofono. do not confuse that with > competition and "nih". look at the support as a positive - you have > won the hearts of at least a set of people already. build on that. be > positive. dont bash the competition in public. promote the POSITIVES > of FSO. do a technical evaluation of things - e.g. performance, API, > compatibility, footprint (memory, disk) etc. etc. > > ofnono claims fso's api is too primitive and low-level. ok - then > prove otherwise. that it's as usable and good as ofono (eg write a > dialler - one with ofono and one with fso. make all other conditions > equal (same language and ui, jut different api bindings) and make it > an even match. if ofono wins with smaller, simpler code - then you > have something to improve. then ofono's claims that fso's api is too > manual and low level, putting too much work in the ui, is right. > prove them wrong! > I totally agree with with this point of view. Don't let the competition get to you, just be the best. Personally, I don't believe in fso, but that's because I don't like python, nothing else :-) Franky _______________________________________________ devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
