On 11/14/2015 06:11 PM, E.S. Rosenberg wrote: > Sounds like something to metion at a community meeting after all Jolla > wants to profile itself as more privacy aware....
Feel free to do so. I've long given up on the farce that are "community meetings". Just so I don't get accused of baseless negativity, again, some points: - No follow up on action points from previous meetings - No accountability for not implementing actions - Jolla (almost) never acts proactively regarding the agenda. Even rather obvious topics need to be put up AND presented by community. - Often such topics are then followed by grave silence, as Jolla does not seem prepared and nobody with authority to answer is there. - Instead of scheduling once properly, very important topics get delayed, rescheduled, canceled, rescheduled again. - Don't happen at all for over a quarter due to "summer vacations" Or read the Minutes or full transcripts yourself: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish/CommunityMeetings Oh and it's not like this topic didn't make it to IRC, community meetings and the official roadmap before. 4.d (ff) http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2014/mer-meeting.2014-09-23-10.00.html 2. http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2015/mer-meeting.2015-01-07-15.01.html So yeah, if anyone is interested, feel free to step in as Don Quixote de La Mancha and put it on the agenda. I most certainly CBA. > > 2015-11-14 19:21 GMT+02:00 Vladislav Vorobiev <v...@piratweb.com > <mailto:v...@piratweb.com>>: > > Hi, > > On Thursday 12 November 2015 17:25:19 Thomas B. Rücker wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On 11/09/2015 06:03 PM, Vladislav Vorobiev wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I setup my phone like this > > > > https://together.jolla.com/question/415/sip-voip-native-integration/ > and > > > it seems to work. The Phone is ringing (display stay black) > but I can > > > answer if i activate the screen with the button. > > > > Sounds about right. > > > > > The microphone from jolla phone works and caller hears me but > I can't hear > > > the caller. > > > > If the situation is still the same as before, apply the ALSA > trick and > > try holding the phone upside down. > > You mean this? > > [stream] > exe = voicecall-manager > group = call > > or something else? > > > > So it's not usable.... > > > > Correct, but that should not have been a surprise to you. After > all you > > read the TJC item on this topic. > > > > > For me is the stable sip feature (even without gui) decisive. > > > > Then I strongly suggest using a different device than a Jolla phone. > > > > > I have no firewall or something like what can block SIP, > CSipSimple works > > > on that device but there are other problems. > > > > That's an Android application, different can of worms and > brokenness. > > > > > > SIP was on Jolla's roadmap, but was never delivered. I expect it got > > dropped, but nobody bothered to update their public roadmap. It > is not a > > feature that would generate value for Jolla in the form of > operator or > > manufacturer deals, so I don't expect them to bother. > > Seems the strategy is like by android and apple. > I thought jola orients itself something else and supports independent > services. We have already very good devices from Apple, Android > and nobody > need an half ready device with the same only profit strategy. > > I bought this device to check the current situation and what i see > i wonder: > > Jola supports Facebook, Twitter, Google accounts but it don't support > SIP, GPG (Mail or XMPP, what I is rely necessary to be different and > independent). > > All what I need are basic things like: SIP, PGP, Calendar, Todos and > possibility to sync my data with own servers and that's not > given. If i need > facebook or Twitter I'm going buy android or apple devices. > > > If you need SIP > > urgently, as you say, get a different device, as there is no > promise and > > no outlook on a change in situation. > > I' have other phone and SIP is on PC. This discussion is more ge > > > Please note that I don't think talking about platform features > and user > > problems is on topic here. So let's EOD. If there's any change > you'll > > see it in the TJC item. > > I tried here because i hoped to get some updates in this case. > > Regards > Vladislav > > > Thomas > -- Thomas _______________________________________________ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org