Tue, 31 May 2016 07:13:33 +0000 Peter Kovacs:

Ads are a classic earn design. As buying an App.
Some Open Source enthusiasts are oppose these ways. And you find them in the Jolla Platform, because jolla is much closer to these idealistic views then Apple or Android.

I personally don't not mind Ads, if I can switch them off for a donation/buyoff. But this is only me.

Yeah - as long as there is a way to pay the developer not to show the adds I would be fine with that (one needs to support the developers, especially on Sailfish OS). On the other hand I would most probably simply not use an app where the ads can't be "paid off".

Maybe Crowed funding developing method is the only way Hardcore OSS people would accept?

I would personally more focus on guidelines how to use ads.

All the best
Peter


Tone Kastlunger <users.giulie...@gmail.com <mailto:users.giulie...@gmail.com>> schrieb am Di., 31. Mai 2016, 08:58:

    This is an excellent discussion point; I believe this is a very
    clear aspect of the key problem of SFOS at the moment - the whole
    point of SFOS is to DIFFERENTIATE itself from android.

    Note : I love coding for SFOS, it's inspiring and motivating.
    Sure, it has it's limitations and quirks, but still, its a great
    experience IMHO.

    The facts are that, if you ask someone the question: "Would you
    mind ads in app XX?" they will reply "Hell NO".
    But nevertheless, if app XX gets published with ads, and the app
    is good, nobody will care about the ads, and use it anyways.

    So, this can mean that:

    1) nobody wants ads
    2) nobody cares if they are there, tho

    My experience has been a harsh rejection of ads by the jolla
    community, with my app where I had included ads.
    In the timeframe the app had ads included, I noticed two trends :
    a) people who stopped using the app completely due to the adds
    b) people who kept on using it (hence rule 2) applies).

    I'd wonder if codign a SFOS app with ads and publish it as an
    Android app on the jolla store will actually fix things?


    On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 8:20 AM, <zoltan.lu...@gmail.com
    <mailto:zoltan.lu...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        Yes, that is how it is. Paid model does not work for masses -
        maybe iOS is exception to some extent...


        I fully understand those who are fed up with annoying ads -
        just like me, too.


        But it does not imply ads are evil as such. Just they have to
        be placed carefully and accordingly...


        Anyway, I just wanted to invite other developers for helping
        me finishing this 'sdk'...


        Zoltán


        Andrew Penkrat írta ekkor: 2016.05.30. 23:46

        I want to add my experience from the developer's point of
        view. I have an Android app with about 1000 installations (and
        100 active users). This app has ads as well as an option to
        disable them for a $2 donation.

        Nobody ever activated this option. So most probably I won't be
        able to get any revenue from the app without ads.

        2016-05-30 23:22 GMT+03:00 Martin Kolman
        <martin.kol...@gmail.com <mailto:martin.kol...@gmail.com>>:

            Mon, 30 May 2016 19:32:54 +0000 Alexey Andreyev:

            Hello, Zoltán! :)
            Feel free to criticize me, but... ads in our jolla? No,
            thanks! :)
            I subscribe to this - while I understand developers are
            looking for revenue streams I really like
            how current native Sailfish OS apps are pretty much add
            free (for one reason or another).
            Just take a look how reckless add usage ruins application
            usability on Android.
            I'm fine with donations, paid/premium versions, etc. but
            please no adds! :)
            I guess if you are a developer it make sence to ask for
            donations / create non-free apps, but please, no ads at all.
            (Espesially with additional web engine module loaded
            eating my resources)

            Again, this is just my opinion. I understand it opens new
            possibilities for some projects, etc, etc.

            пн, 30 мая 2016 г. в 21:48, Zoltán Lutor
            <zoltan.lu...@gmail.com <mailto:zoltan.lu...@gmail.com>>:

                I've progressed with implementing an open source
                wrapper for Vserv RESTful advertisement API in QML.
                Quote from API description:

                    Vserv provides a simple HTTP based API to
                    publishers/developers and other ad networks, etc.
                    to fetch ads for mobile sites or mobile
                    applications. The mobile device / server makes a
                    HTTP request to Vserv Marketplace server with the
                    required parameters and in response receives the
                    ad in JSON format. This single API integration
                    gives you the flexibility to fetch banner/ full
                    screen / rich media ads.

                Available implementation is in pre-beta phase - quite
                majority of functionality works but there is still
                room for improvement.

                Since I'm not so experienced in this area of sw
                development - and especially newbie in Sailfish
                native development - */I would like to ask some help
                from the community in finishing it/*.

                It would be a general purpose QML wrapper around the
                API with necessary tailoring is needed for Sailfish -
                e.g. Webkit vs. WebView, etc. Maybe separate git
                branches are needed for different implementation(?) -
                I'm open for any reasonable proposal.

                Is there anybody willing to join? Reviewing,
                commenting - and of course, coding is more than
                welcome. [This is my first open source project, so
                comment from this aspect is welcome, too.]

                API descrption is here
                
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/139TRSTV33tLxKxbew4yPTPF4uc8PZJPiRkxyo9GymIE/edit>,
                code repository is in BitBucket
                <https://bitbucket.org/zlutor/qml-wrapper-for-vserv-http-ad-api>

                Br,

                Zoltan

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