Hi,
automated upgrades to a new Ubuntu LTS version are pushed with the first
point-release of a new version. This could be a good idea for owncloud
as well. After a new major release, the updater app just waits for the
first point release (8.2.1, for next major upgrade 9.0.1). Then the new
version has already been installed on a larger number of hosts. Most
updater-app users don't have full access to the system and possible
problems are much harder to identify and to fix.
A testing mode of the updater app would be a very nice feature. This
way, users who really need new features or who just want to test the
upgrade process, can run an upgrade to the 8.2.0-version. Or is there
currently any way to test the updater app?
Regards,
tflidd
On 2015-11-17 10:10, [email protected] wrote:
Hi Chris,
sorry for the misunderstanding, I did not intend to affront you
personally, but from your first response I gathered that you know
about the details of classifying a release.
@all: I would like to raise the question of what use a release channel
setup has if a new version can be released that does not seem to be
fit for any of the channels? The channels choosen look quite alright
to me - I can decide if you want to be ahead of the pack or be more on
the safe side. That is how I read the channels:
* Production: very well debugged (if not bugfree, alas) and
established release; at the moment, I would expect 8.1.4
* Stable: well tested, but with major changes; 8.2 at the moment
* Beta: Something like 8.2.1, also RC, for add-on devs for example
or maintainers of large installations to prepare for upcoming changes
* Nightly: well, just that, nightly build, just for core developers
Also, I would like to remind everyone of the first line on the release
notes page (https://owncloud.org/changelog/)
_We recommend you follow our Release Channels [1] to always have the
latest ownCloud Server version which fits your needs._
So as an admin, I am urged to use release channels, but OC does not
deliver what meet the expectations raised by itself.
To me it looks like there is a gap between outward communication and
perception and the inner thinking about delivering updates; and if I
may add, it seems at least possible that there is no common
understanding in the developer community, as well.
Regards
Jim
GESENDET: Dienstag, 17. November 2015 um 06:16 Uhr
VON: Chris <[email protected]>
AN: [email protected]
BETREFF: Re: [owncloud-devel] Update available via admin interface
Hi,
why is everyone thinking that if someone is answering somewhere that
he is
instantly speaking for the project.
I'm not speaking for the project oC, i'm not related to ownCloud inc.
at
all, i'm not a developer and i'm also not releasing anything ;-)
The post above was just my personal thinking about that.
So please explain, in which release channel does 8.2 belong exactly?
In none i would say. It probably will hit "stable" as soon as it is
"ready
for home users at minimal risk". I don't see a problem here...
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