RIP Qbs=( Иван Комиссаров
> 29 окт. 2018 г., в 17:32, Ray Donnelly <mingw.andr...@gmail.com> написал(а): > > Agreed, a brilliant bit of technology, such a shame to see it deprecated. >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:24 PM Corentin <corentin.ja...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Having had the pleasure to use QBS quite extensively (and successfully) in >> the past, I would like to thank the QBS team and contributors for showing us >> what a sane, modern build system could look like. >> So long! >> >>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 13:17 Lars Knoll <lars.kn...@qt.io> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> As you will probably remember, there have been lively discussions around >>> what kind of build tool to use for Qt 6 both during Qt Contributor Summits >>> as well as on this mailing list. >>> >>> There has been a strong consent that we should move away from qmake as our >>> build tool for Qt due to many shortcomings and the burden we have >>> maintaining the system. >>> >>> Thiago wrote a set of relatively strict requirements for such a build tool >>> in his mail in July. While some of the requirements had a bit of a Linux >>> specific background, they have been a good basis. >>> >>> There have been rather lively discussions around alternatives, but most >>> focused around two possible choices for us: Qbs and cmake. >>> >>> Qbs is something that has been developed almost exclusively by The Qt >>> Company. As such, TQtC had to also look at it from a business perspective >>> and how it fits into the larger picture of making Qt successful. To make a >>> long story short, while Qbs is pretty cool and interesting technology, it >>> doesn’t really help us expand the Qt ecosystem and usage. >>> >>> To make Qbs really successful would require a rather large effort and >>> investment in promoting it towards the larger C++ ecosystem as a new build >>> tool. At the same time it has to be an open source product to stand any >>> chance in the market. Together this makes it challenging for TQtC to see >>> how to recover that investment. Thus this investment would be at the >>> expense of other things we’d like to do, like improving our IDE, working on >>> rearchitecting and cleaning up our core frameworks for Qt 6 or the design >>> tooling we are currently investing into. The Qt Company believes that those >>> other investments are more important for the future of Qt than our choice >>> of build tool. >>> >>> As such, we were left with the question on whether we need Qbs as the build >>> system for Qt 6 or whether cmake (as the other alternative) would be up to >>> the task. >>> >>> Given that background, we’ve done some more research on using both Qbs and >>> cmake to build Qt. Both projects did give us good results but we were >>> actually surprised on how far we got with cmake in a rather limited period >>> of time. >>> >>> In addition, cmake has the advantage of being very widely used in the C++ >>> ecosystem (amongst many others by KDE), has a very wide support in many >>> IDEs and other tools (e.g. VCPkg, Conan etc.), and there’s a lot of >>> knowledge about the build system available in the ecosystem. Using it with >>> Qt 6 would also mean that we can focus our support on two build systems for >>> our users (qmake and cmake) and we would not have to add a third one to the >>> mix. >>> >>> Given that we are confident we can build Qt 6 with cmake, I believe that it >>> makes most sense to follow down that route. In case you’re interested, you >>> can have a look at the cmake prototype code for qtbase on Gerrit in the >>> wip/cmake branch. Please also let us know if you’re interested in helping >>> with the effort of porting Qt’s build system over to cmake. >>> >>> We have been developing Qbs over the last years, and as such are committed >>> to it for some more time. We are planning on another feature release in the >>> first quarter of next year and will support it in Qt Creator for at least >>> another year. Qbs is open source and if someone wants to take over and >>> develop it further let us know as well. I’d also like to use this place to >>> thank Christian and Jörg for all their great work on Qbs (and of course >>> also anybody else who contributed to it). >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Lars >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Development mailing list >>> Development@qt-project.org >>> http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Development mailing list >> Development@qt-project.org >> http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development > _______________________________________________ > Development mailing list > Development@qt-project.org > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development _______________________________________________ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
