On Tuesday, 30 October 2018 14:44:43 PDT Christian Gagneraud wrote: > On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 10:27, Thiago Macieira <thiago.macie...@intel.com> wrote: > > On Tuesday, 30 October 2018 13:56:45 PDT NIkolai Marchenko wrote: > > The only thing I'm criticising is that its proper chance involves Qt being > > the guinea pig. Find someone else instead and grow your community. Get > > track record for building, cross-compiling, working with weird set ups, > > containerised build environments, build farms, etc. Don't ask Qt to switch > > to it until you've done that work. > > !?! > What make you think qbs cannot be used in such environments?That all
I didn't say it can't. I'm saying I want proof that it can, by having other projects adopt the solution and there being track record of it. > very basic stuff to me. > - cross-compiling: Qbs support *out of the box* all "standard" OS > *and* "standard" toolchains. > - working with weird set ups: what does that even mean? That a very > vague statement. See the July email for more details. > - containerised build: any build system can run in a container, that's > orthogonal. Until you run into trouble. Example of what I literally had a problem with in the last 30 minutes: Maven. [ERROR] Failed to execute goal on project hadoop-auth: Could not resolve dependencies for project org.apache.hadoop:hadoop-auth:jar:2.8.5: Failed to collect dependencies at com.nimbusds:nimbus-jose-jwt:jar:4.41.1: Failed to read artifact descriptor for com.nimbusds:nimbus-jose-jwt:jar:4.41.1: Could not transfer artifact com.nimbusds:nimbus-jose-jwt:pom:4.41.1 from/to apache.snapshots.https (https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/ snapshots): repository.apache.org: No address associated with hostname -> [Help 1] Who do I turn to for help? A quick set of Google queries did not result in an answer on how to properly populate the dependencies for this thing (Apache Hadoop) . > - build farms: Against what is the problem with build farm, i don't get it. There's no problem until there's a problem. Can you point me to something that uses qbs to build getting built in a Linux distribution's build farm? I'd like to know that it's been properly tested. It's small things like libraries ending up in /usr/lib64 instead of /usr/lib. Some build systems do that automatically for you; with some others you can get it wrong. And here's the buildsystem that failed to install libraries in the right place this morning: CMake. > - etc: again, can you elaborate? that's very vague. I did, three months ago. > I've used Qbs to build a Desktop SW for Windows + MacOS + Linux, all > producing platform specific installers. > It was a breeze. > I've used it to build a 1.5 million SLOC SW, with complex build > matrix. Great. That's good track record. Now get 3 Linux distributions to package it. > The only reason we dropped it, was because of lack of > integration: > QtCreator is the only IDE that knows Qbs, as i reported on Qbs mailing > long time ago, Qbs won't take off without XCode, Visual Stidio, Visual > Code, Eclipse, ... integration. > And, so far, we failed at switching to CMake, the build matrix is too > complex. I didn't call for IDE support in my email. Tobias, in a reply to it, did. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center _______________________________________________ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
