> I personally consider “sudo apt-get install -y qtcreator” distros come with outdated qt
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 7:10 PM Volker Hilsheimer <volker.hilshei...@qt.io> wrote: > > On 29 Jan 2020, at 15:20, Benjamin TERRIER <b.terr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 14:10, Cristián Maureira-Fredes < > cristian.maureira-fre...@qt.io> wrote: > >> > >> but for Windows/macOS this might have three solutions (maybe more): > >> - Using package managers that provide Qt, > >> - Download and compile Qt by themselves, > >> - Create an account and use the installer. > > > > > > How is any of these a solution to the fact that your a putting a barrier > for new users? > > These are just 3 bad solutions to a problem that did not exist yesterday > and that we have to deal with > > because you removed the 2 main points of entry for new Qt users: the > offline installer and > > the non-privacy-violating online installer. > > Hm, if the problem didn’t exist, then why did the solutions exist? Package > managers on Windows and macOS provide Qt in the past, after all, and > > $ sudo apt-get install -y qtcreator > PS C:\Users\vohi> choco install qtcreator > $ brew install qt-creator > > give me a Qt development environment on Linux, Windows, and macOS. > > > You obviously don’t trust that TQtC will treat the data the > online-installer either demands or requires with the appropriate > confidence. So, shouldn't you build Qt from sources? Your IP address is > PII, after all. Why did you trust that The Qt Company didn’t collect > personal data from you previously - just because you didn’t have to enter > your email address? > > > >> Good thing that you replied in any case, > >> because I really think we should separate the different use cases: > >> > >> - For people already using Qt, with Qt accounts, > >> that's not a problem. > > > > This, and a lot of what TQC employees are saying on these changes, does > sound like the famous sentence > > from Don Mattrick about the Xbox One: "We have a product for people who > aren't able to get some form of connectivity; it's called Xbox 360." > > > > Back to the topic, I have a Qt account, I do NOT want to use it to > install Qt. > > I am pretty sure we will have community provided offline, and even maybe > online, installers soon enough. > > > I wonder where all this love for the Qt installer comes from. I personally > consider “sudo apt-get install -y qtcreator” or “brew install qt-creator” > or “choco install qtcreator" to be vastly superior to using the installer > UI, and very easily integrated in VM provisioning. Any energy spent on > making sure that the versions we get from those package repos is up-to-date > would be worth a lot more (to me) than building another installer. > > > Volker > > > _______________________________________________ > Development mailing list > Development@qt-project.org > https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/development >
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