This is Jeb Campbell and I hate to bother this list, but I am currently making a new freeswan rpm for 4.1b3 (and the real one I guess) and I don't know what to number it. I want to follow the standard version numbers that you are going to, just don't know what number and name would fit in best with what is going on. I would also like to make some scripts that use e-smith's builtin variables like the subnet of the local network, and any other networks you consider local, to make the ipsec.conf files--just to make this where anyone can install this and use it. Any help on that would be greatly appreciated. I can write scripts that do all this, but it would be nice to integrate those with the e-smith-manager, and I have no idea how to do that. If anyone would like info on, or to help with, the scripts or webpage, please email me at my address below. Jeb Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] (865)546-6381