I would agree that your current direction of disabling services by default,
allowing the user to easily enable via the e-smith-manager is a good
procedure.  What about the further thought for an uninstall option if for
instance webmail isn't enabled why not offer a further option to uninstall
all related packages to free disk space.  Thoughts for future versions...

Darrell

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charlie Brady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 11:36 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] RFC: 4.1 to ship with webmail disabled by
> default
> 
> 
> 
> We are seriously considering shipping version 4.1 with IMP webmail
> installed, but disabled. There will be a services web form which will
> allow all services to be enabled/disabled.
> 
> We are thinking this way for two reasons:
> 
> 1. Performance. On low memory systems, loading mod_php consumes
> considerable system resources (actually, on any system it 
> does, but it is
> really noticable on low end systems).
> 
> 2. Security. Enabling webmail opens an avenue for remote brute force
> password guessing attempts. The same can be said for SSH, 
> telnet, ftp and
> POP. Those other services all ship disabled by default. IMP 
> webmail should
> as well. If you want webmail, you just enable it using the manager.
> 
> Are there dissenting views? Please present them, with reasoning.
> 
> Thanks
> 
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