Hi all, I just updated one of my mail servers with the updates posted on e- smith (ver 4.1.1) I did the typical rmp -Uvh *.rpm and everything went smoothly, no errors. I also updated the obtuse-smtpd for Gordon's contrib directory. After the install I did a sig-event post-update and a sig-event console-save Then a reboot I also did a reconfigure from the admin console (I needed to change the domain name) and reboot. But now my custom templates for smtp_rules_check won't expand I've tried expand-templates /var/spool/smtp/etc/smtp_rules_check but that didn't work either. I've an update before and it worked fine on other machines, but just not this time. Anyone have any suggestions? Dean ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dean Staff Protus IP Solutions 210 - 2379 Holly Lane Ottawa, ON K1V 7P2 Canada 613-733-0000 ex 546 Fax 613-248-4553 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.protus.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~