> On Monday 08 December 2003 08:19 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Quoting Dan Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 11:06:47PM -0800, Des Dougan wrote: > > > > > Given Red Hat's stated direction, and the lack of clarity of how > > > > > Fedora Core will develop, might v 7.0 be the time to address basing > > > > > the server on a different distribution to provide a more stable base > > > > > than FC may > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > able to provide? > > > > > > > > Which distribution did you have in mind? Theoretically, a switch to > > > > Debian (for example) isn't too drastic because the core configuration > > > > and architecture of E-smith is in the Perl template/events structure. > > > > In practice it would be a huge amount of work and the upgrade > > > > path would be a real challenge. > > > > > > I think a move to a stable distro like Debian would have a number of > > > advantages (not least of which might be a new pool of willing > > > volunteers!). It also has the best update/install system (in APT) that I > > > have come across. > > > > > > I can see that the upgrade path would be a big issue though. > > > > > > > > > Dan. > > > > Well, Here is what I've seen so far. > > Redhat and RPM although relible and well estabilshed are NOT good package > > management systems. Too much micromanagment is required on the part of the > > system administrator. > > > > Debain Supports both RPM and APT, there are a number of tools that will > > cross install. The main issue would be the minor diffrences in file system > > layout (Debain is also more efficent than RedHat in this respect). Debain > > also recently modified anaconda to support apt! > > > > One good system that comes to mind is Gentoo, as they have "THE BEST" > > package management system I've ever used (On a linux distro). It's more > > akin to the BSD "Ports" tree, however seeing as this is a firewall, haveing > > a complier handy is not the greatest idea. > > If you believe in apt and like BSD style ports and want the ultimate in KISS > (keep it simple stupid) you might want to look at the package management in > the arch-linux distro. It is quite obvious that the developers have studied > the faults and piccadillos in rpm, urpm, tgz, apt, and have created an > amazing package management system. I switched to this for most of my > development a year ago, and have stayed with it longer than any other distro > I have tried over the past 6 years. (Yes, I am picky and demanding.) > > For those of you that will want to confuse your opinion of me with arch linux > and wont give it a looksee; well I am not a developer and "mores the pity" > for you. > > The only other distro I would even remotely consider these days would be > open-BSD. However I think linux may well be a better fit for the future.
Given that Apple is using parts of BSD for the Darwin/Mac OSX this could be an intresting move, not having the overhead of a GUI, and the XServe is quite a nice box :} Stewart Evans Network Technician Lygon IT [EMAIL PROTECTED] (618) 8211 8522 > > Very best regards; > > Bob Finch > Computers That Work > > > > > > So here is the ages old debate, > > Which distro and do I need a complier? Since the future of redhat is murky, > > perhaps the Dev Crew would contact Redhat? Simply because re-codeing the > > wheel is a gargantuian task. > > > > Personally, I think E-smith should be developed for OpenBSD, it's there, > > supports all the packages that e-smith uses and is inherently more secure > > than linux of any kind. As of 3.4 the ld linker loads libraries in a > > randomized order effectivly nullifying or making buffer overflows > > increadably difficult. It also has a stable tree, has a reputation and a > > huge following in the security industry. Perhaps there were liscencing > > issues? > > > > Either way, I hope you all feel that this is food for though and not a > > complete waste of time. The open source playing feild is pretty daunting at > > times, and E- smith may be locked into one core by virtue of the scrpts > > used. > > > > Just my two cents, > > Hazen. > > Where my perl skills sharper and my free time more plentiful I'd do it > > myself. > > > > > > > > -- > > Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues > > Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Searchable archive at > > http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org > > > -- > Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues > Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Searchable archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org > > -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Searchable archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
