On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 04:45:46PM -0500, Scott G. Miller wrote:
> On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 05:35:27PM -0400, Travis Bemann wrote:
> > On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 09:37:06AM -0500, Scott G. Miller wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 12:07:34AM -0500, Brandon wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Reminds me of SecureCard, the credit card sized random number generator
> > > > > synchronized with a login password challenge.  Could use Think Cash to
> > > > > seed it so that you don't have to solve a puzzle every email.
> > > > 
> > > > But then it wouldn't stop mechanical spam.
> > > Yes it would, mixing (1) and (2) would limit it, since solving a puzzle
> > > allows a computer device to generate keys, but you only actually check a
> > > limited number of them for each puzzle.  If you allow only ten emails per
> > > puzzle, then you can only be spammed mechanically ten times before a human
> > > has to once again be involved.
> > > 
> > 
> > Yeah, but people don't like being forced to solve puzzles to send
> > email.
> And they really don't like to be spammed.  Really, even from an
> information theory perspective, either giving the sender a piece of
> information that allows them to send you one email, or having an operation
> that only a human can do is the only way to prevent mechanical
> spamming.  So get over it.

So how are you going to do "think cash" in a way that:

1.  Is not some weak clientside security measure.
2.  Does not require any Java or Javascript or any other sort of smart
    content.
3.  Does not make freenet-mail even slower.
4.  Is quite reliable.
5.  A well designed computer program couldn't get past the "think
    cash" by knowing either what the questions are and what the
    answers should be or doing some simple sort of artificial
    intelligence.
6.  Does not require any sort of daemons running on remote machines
    (like mailing list software does) or modifications to the Freenet
    node.

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