On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 11:34:41PM +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote: > I think we should delay. We need time to sort out the windoze > installers, _and test them_.
I will be very unhappy indeed if the Windows installer delays the release. > I have discovered some problems recently > whose solutions will not be quite trivial, to do with long startup times. From what I hear it is because the seednodes.ref file is being reloaded each time, the fix for that is trivial - I have already pointed out two ways to do it on IRC. > Oskar's patch for metadata may well be wrong too (the previous one was). > We should release "when it's done". It is entirely the definition of "when it's done" that is at issue here. One reasonable definition is that "when it's done" is when it is more stable than 0.3 - we met that criteria weeks if not months ago. Another definition, the definition I offered on the 2nd of October and which was met with no disagreement whatsoever, was that it is done when the datastore bug is fixed. We have met that critieria too by any reasonable definition. If your definition is "when there are no bugs", then I am afraid we may as-well forget the whole concept of periodic releases, because we will never ever satisfy everyone. Releases are always two weeks away, the only way to actually achieve them is to draw a line in the sand - trust me, I have been doing this type of thing for a while now in a variety of different environments. Ian. > And we should not wait for the > press. One week of code freeze and all substantial work on a separate > branch or locally seems reasonable. > > > > > > > Hyping freenet is a bad idea. When it works well people with tell other > > > > > people about it and the userbase will grow organically until journalists > > > > > start to call you. > > > If it works well you will have more press than you know what to do with. > > > > It does work well - right now. I have been personally testing it > > heavily for the past few days, as have others. If people are concerned > > that it won't be sufficiently tested, then they should be helping us > > test it, not shouting "PR Whore" from the peanut gallery. > > > > > > We will, it will be part of the 0.5 release. > > > We have been working on this for years. What is the motivation for rushing > > > the release? Is the underlying problem that we are running out of money to > > > pay mt? If so how much money do we have and how much do we need? > > > > No, the underlying problem is that our development release is much more > > stable than our current stable release. If someone doesn't draw a line > > in the sand, it will never be released. By saying it will be released > > on Wednesday, it will focus people's efforts. > > > > Ian. > > > > -- > > Ian Clarke ian@[freenetproject.org|locut.us|cematics.com] > > Latest Project http://cematics.com/kanzi > > Personal Homepage http://locut.us/ > > > > -- > Matthew Toseland > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Freenet/Coldstore open source hacker. > Employed full time by Freenet Project Inc. from 11/9/02 to 11/11/02. > http://freenetproject.org/ -- Ian Clarke ian@[freenetproject.org|locut.us|cematics.com] Latest Project http://cematics.com/kanzi Personal Homepage http://locut.us/
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