On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 08:16:08AM -0800, Martin Stone Davis wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > Most cable + DSL lines (here in the UK at least) can get a new IP address at
> > the cost of a DHCP renew. Also, (I believe that) my cable operator operates
> > large subnets so the chances of getting the same one again subsequently are
> > pretty low.
> 
> How fast?  Can you give me an approximate figure of # of IP addresses 
> per day?  (Sorry, I don't know what "DHCP renew" is!)
> 
> For the greedy operator to benefit substantially, he has to create new 
> IP addresses faster than it takes to figure out that he's being greedy. 
>   So if he can get a new IP address only once a day, but it takes us as 
> little as 20 minutes to cut him off for being greedy, then we can 
> tolerate it, and negative trust can work.

If the user is smart, it's not very hard for him to convince pretty much any
DHCP server to give him a new IP every few minutes, especially with PPPoE
based services (such as 90% of DSL) - just bring down then up your PPPoE
link, bam, new IP.

FreenetSpeeder-1.0 will automatically do this for the user, of course (think
kazaa lite's "auto-more sources needed" feature :-p), meaning that the user 
won't even need to be smart.

        -- jj

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