On Wednesday 04 Apr 2012 22:39:21 Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Wednesday 04 Apr 2012 20:31:42 Florent Daigniere wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 12:58:55PM -0300, Marco Schulze wrote: > > > On 04-04-2012 11:43, Zlatin Balevsky wrote: > > >> > > >> The problem of abusing the predicate by performing anything other than > > >> logging inside it. > > >> > > > I guess that that does improve readability a bit. However, less than 5% > > > of the ifs guards anything but Log.*() calls. > > > > > >> You cannot get rid of the predicate without introducing side effects > > >> as I've demonstrated throughout this thread. > > >> > > > By removing the predicate and delegating checks to the logging function, > > > a _lot_ of boilerplate code is removed. Ideally, as toad said, Java > > > would have some kind macro system enabling the best of both worlds. > > > Lacking that, the question becomes: 'is the overhead acceptable?'. > > > > > > There have been quite a lot of arguments thrown here. In the end, > > > though, as fred is big and complex, the only answer is to write some > > > code and actually run the thing. Are varargs bad? Sure. Is the slowdown > > > unacceptable? No idea. Just bear with my slowness (or do help), and > > > you'll at least have a convincing argument for the next fool in the line. > > > > > > > You're the one who should try to convince us to merge your jumbo patch... > > > > If your proposed solution is not faster than the existing code, you'd > > better come up with a solid and representative benchmark showing that > > the difference is not significant. If your 'solution' is trading 'jar > > size' and 'readability' against run-time performance (for the common > > case assuming logNORMAL), we won't merge it. Freenet is slow enough > > as is. > > > > Hint: your doing it wrong, the one way to make it faster and nicer is to > > use dependancy injection > > You mean patching the bytecode at load time? That's an interesting idea, > what's the overhead likely to look like? > I think db4o includes a library for doing such things ... so we may not even need any new dependancies for it.
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