Okay, that makes sense. Build 1471 will be a transition build to avoid
feature creep, and we'll need a build of WoT that includes db4o for 1472.

- Steve

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015, 7:20 AM Ximin Luo <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On 28/10/15 10:51, Florent Daigniere wrote:
> > On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 21:47 +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> >> Am Sonntag, 25. Oktober 2015, 15:13:06 schrieb Matthew Toseland:
> >>> I disagree. We should take reasonable steps to avoid breaking
> >>> unofficial
> >>> plugins, but we shouldn't let it cripple us. We are not Microsoft.
> >>> And
> >>> db4o is unmaintained upstream...
> >>
> >> Let’s avoid doing another “hey, we’re growing again, how about
> >> breaking people’s setup?” ← we already did that a few times. It was
> >> pretty frustrating.
> >>
> >> There’s no gain from removing db4o except for ideological pureness,
> >> which has no value for our users.
> >>
> >
> > More software -> more maintenance burden -> more bugs -> less time
> > spent on fixing things users actually use.
> >
> > What's the part you don't understand?
> >
> > Right now, keeping db4o means headaches with packaging and build-system
> > integration. It's one of the few dependencies we have that uses
> > Maven...
> >
> > Nobody is happy with it; the ideology purists, the packagers nor the
> > people who actually use it (xor's plugins). They all want change
> > (removal or upgrade depending on who you ask); unless you volunteer to
> > handle the actual changes, I'm not sure I understand why you'd get a
> > vote on what will happen.
> >
>
> FWIW scrapping db4o will also help the debian package actually enter
> Debian at some point - it's one less dependency to have to bundle (and
> argue with the FTP masters about).
>
> X
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