On 03/12/15 00:44, Matthew Toseland wrote:
On 02/12/15 22:34, Psalle wrote:
Let me hijack the topic at this point (following Victor Denisov trail)
into another though experiment: instead of arguing what Freenet needs
or could do, I'll contribute my *chief* reason not to use it (I've
been running it from time to time since around 2005).
Although I just said I'll say one chief reason, I'll cheat and offer
one using three different hats.
As a /user/, freenet is extraordinarily heavy for the computers I've
used it on (some of them not that low spec). Disk trashing in some of
them was so interfering with normal use to make it unbearable.
Unfortunately we've done nearly everything we can about this. The client
layer is *far* more efficient than it was on disk I/O, and the datastore
too.
Maybe it needs some careful profiling.
One thing we could do is use I/O priorities though, especially on
Windows. This might help significantly.
Curiously, my subjective impression is that I/O load is more noticeable
on linux than on windows (not for freenet but in general). I have had
problems with very large dropbox folders in recent years but only when
using ubuntu.
As a /programmer/, the two times I've tried to catch a bug or
contribute some code, I found it exceedingly difficult to dive into
it. Arguably I could have chosen too difficult points of entry...
Probably. :|
You should ask for some pointers?
Yep. I don't like nagging people but I guess there's a thing as being
too shy.
As a /donor/ circa 2007 IIRC, I felt my monthly contribution was being
wasted on features that led nowhere.
Any particular features? Ancient history I guess...
Well, at that time my sensation was that there was a piling of tentative
ideas on top of ideas in the hope that some of them would cause a
breakthrough, but I felt that even a good idea would get drowned in the
general noise. Mind you, this was a non-programmer perception, so things
were probably different from the inside.
Put another way, I felt that there was not a clear understanding of
why/how well the network as a whole was working, so all the coding
without a solid analysis discouraged me. I loved the stats and
simulations, not surprisingly, so in that regard I was happy.
I understand this is a very hard problem from a scientific point of
view. I guess I miss more developments in the theoretical side of
things. It's not that I am against experimental algorithms, but that I
see the freenet codebase too large and complex to really be an efficient
platform for experimenting right now. In that regard, I admire how much
effort you and others have devoted to such a frustrating problem.
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