Thank you for your thoughtful reply Bert.
On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 11:58 AM, Bert Massop [email protected] wrote:Visitors 
to our website are interested in anonymity and escaping from

surveilance. As such, they tend to seek software like Freenet, and may end

up on our website to download it. It exactly this set of people who may be

most concerned about he proposed changes to rule 41 as described on the

EFF's website, as they oppose, in my humble opinion, both the interests of

our users and the project's goal. As such, knowledge on the proposed

changes to rule 41 may be of the best interest to Freenet's users and by

extension to the project itself, as Freenet cannot function without its

users.




This argument could also be used to justify having a large banner for Tor, I2P,
or a multitude of other projects which share similar goals on our front page.
Would that be desirable? I don't believe so.


The EFF had announced a single day to raise awareness of this issue. For

all of the reasons explained earlier, it struck me as useful to our

(American) users to be made aware of this.




No attempt was made to limit visibility of this banner to American users, nor
was it removed promptly after this day of action. I would still have disgagreed
with it, but I think these facts support my claim of carelessness with regard to
the project's public image as expressed through our website.





I'm also concerned that this action was taken even though multiple people

> had

> pointed out how ugly the banner was, utterly inconsistent with the color

> scheme

> of the website.







This reads as if one person decided to publish the banner, even though

others actively opposed that decision based on the perceived ugliness of

the result. As you may know, this was not the case. All active participants

in the discussion, myself included, perceived the banner as ugly, and all

of us agreed with still having the banned for a strongly restricted amount

of time despite its ugliness.




Which is why I said people were not giving sufficient consideration to the
importance of our public image as a project. Our website isn't a billboard. It's
purpose is to educate people about Freenet and hopefully persuade them to use it
and contribute towards the project.
The banner has already been removed sinceyesterday evening, which is well 
before you sent your latest message that I

am replying to.
It was only removed because I complained about it. How long would it have been
left there if I hadn't? This is the carelessness I have referred to.
I don't enjoy being the “bad cop”, but if people make mistakes then I'm going to
point out those mistakes.
Ian.
Ian Clarke
Founder, The Freenet Project
Email: [email protected]
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