On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Signal 11 wrote:

> > What is wrong with this:
> 
> Well, for starters you're using *BSD, I believe.

Indeed. And what is wrong with that?? Very good to start with in the
port quest as most other operating systems' (including M$(r)
Windows(tm)) networking stuff is based on that, they say. Seriously,
it is very standard unix. More people should try it. I won't say it is
better than Linux, for I cannot provide convincing evidence for that.
Well as far as networking standards and software goes, Apache runs
FreeBSD, ISC.org (that maintains BIND) runs BSD/OS (now merging with
FreeBSD). Many ISP's run FreeBSD (or BSD/OS), Yahoo does, Hotmail did
until very recently. 
And if you really care for security, have a look at OpenBSD, which has
the additional advantage of completely lacking any corporate backing
:-) [To complete the picture: NetBSD runs on everything. I have it on
an old VAX here.] Anyway, it is not good to get very Linux centric, I
think. There is more Unix then Linux. There was Unix before Linus was.

> > unclad:www {281} netstat -an |grep LISTEN
> > tcp4       0      0  212.238.105.241.53     *.*
> > tcp4       0      0  127.0.0.1.53           *.*
> > tcp4       0      0  10.0.0.10.53           *.*
> 
> Looks like you forgot your bind entries in /etc/named.conf..

Why do you think that? I did not! However, I did ask netstat to give
me numbers in stead of names (-n option) or there would have been
"domain" for 53, "http" for 80 etc. (in addition to hostnames for
IP's, which you were expecting).
That would not be useful to find a free port easily.

> second, you posted your IP addy to the list. 

Sure, if I changed nothing in the netstat output.

> Third, this 
> is obviously on your firewall. I believe demon internet
> is a new zealand-based dialup ISP. Given the DNS entry,
> I believe it is safe to assume you work there, as it is
> not part of their normal dialup blocks.

Come on, you must be joking. 212.238.105.241 is the real IP of a
dialup. It resolves to demon.nl. I am with Demon NL. NL stands for The
Netherlands. I do not work with Demon. A firewall? This is the machine
I connect with over ISDN. Any other FreeBSD box with a normal install
would look the same, give or take one or two lines (like port 53 and 
nfs related ports).

> As a humorous aside, ns0.demon.nl is not properly rejecting
> requests for zone xfers. I wonder whether you setup those
> servers or not. =)

No, I have set up just one (1) server [check headers to find it],
which is not on the Demon network, with which I have nothing to do,
apart from using them to connect from home. The server I set up does
refuse an AXFR from anyone but a few IP's. The funny side is that my
secondary nameserver (which is that from the company where I
collocate, so outside my control) does allow AXFR's to the world. I
don't mind that at all. There is so much I don't really need to hide
about my one-server-network.

> > After eliminating the well-known ports in your list, 
> we're left with:
> 
> > tcp4       0      0  *.587                  *.*
> > tcp4       0      0  *.1022                 *.*
> > tcp4       0      0  *.2049                 *.*
> > tcp4       0      0  *.1023                 *.*
> 
> Now, I know that 1023 is not a well-known service,
> but I often find that port open - the reason I
> disrecall, so let's drop that one from the list.

Well, you might like it when people who run FreeBSD can also use
Freenet without additional hassle to get the right port.
1022/1023 is nfs related (portmap, mountd can't remember).

> This leaves:
> 
> > tcp4       0      0  *.587                  *.*
> > tcp4       0      0  *.1022                 *.*
> > tcp4       0      0  *.2049                 *.*
> 
> I'm going to also drop 587 and 1022 because they are
> under the "1024" priveledged ports. I don't know for
> sure if Freenet runs as root, but I believe it is safe
> to assume the developers are trying to make sure that
> is not necessary. This leaves us with 2049, our freenet 
> node.

2049 is not a Freenet node. There was no Freenet running on the box
(it is one of two dialups I use, so very transient, as here there is
no flat fee phone).
2049 is, I presume, ... nfsd :-)

> Do I get a prize?

Yes! The URL for more information about FreeBSD (and lists where to
download it): http://www.freebsd.org/

--
Marc Schneiders 

FreeBSD: Unleash the Daemon in your machine!

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