On 19 Feb 2001, William Wise wrote:

> > I don't see the point. The problem is not that we cannot connect
> > outward through overly paranoid firewalls - in this case http proxies
> > - but that we are a peer to peer system, so users need to be able to
> > be connected to. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see anything
> > about SOAP which opens any backwards holes through firewalls.
>
> If you are given a static IP or dynamic IP from a pool of valid Class x
> addresses and your firewall allows you to accept connections through
> port 80 (this is the situation at my college campus) then it should be
> possible for you to receive a SOAP message on port 80.  I don't think
> this would work in the case of NAT/PAT on the router.

I was not aware that such a configuration was in use, and even given
that it is for you, I think you are in the minority. I am very wary
about using SOAP for firewall peircing from the outside, because I
generally don't think that trying to fight the sysadmins in that sort
of whack-a-mole game is worth it - if they want to keep people from
being able to connect to internal nodes, they can figure out how
(Bruce Schneier's Cryptogram blasted SOAP on this point a few months
back).

> Let me know if I'm not making sense as my forte is programming but this
> jives with what I know about the operation of firewalls and networking
> in general.  However, it seems as long as you're allowed http
> connections on port 80 you should be able to have your code invoked
> programmatically under the web services architecture.

Yes, but given that this is a rather unusual configurtion, and given
that it's just a matter of time before admins that are already
filtering for http start filtering for specific applications
pretending to be http, I can't see that this owuld be worth it.

>
> Will
>
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