On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 01:38:46PM -0700, Ray Heasman wrote:
> Hi Oskar,
< > 
> > Maybe we need to accept the fact that our model has, thus far, failed
> > completely and disastrously in pratice. Not to say we should give up:
> > there are still a lot of unexplored options, but the current network is
> > very obviously useless. All this beating of the dead horse is doing
> > nobody any good...
> 
> I agree. I honestly think that the current routing model can be made to
> work. I also honestly think that the way Freenet caches data is what's
> breaking the routing. I know I'm beating this drum regularly, but I've never
> been able to stimulate much discussion on the subject, and I'm not going to
> give it up until I feel I have...
> 
> It would be nice to disable all caching (ie. Cache on inserts only), and
> actually get some real numbers as to how the routing algorithm works. What's
> the point of testing a routing algorithm that can route just about anywhere
> and hit a cached file?

I have actually simulated this, or at least pretty close to it (I
simulated only caching when the DataSource is reset, which is 1/30). The
results were drasticly worse than when caching.

Not caching is most certainly not the right thing to do. We want data to
be mobile. It is possible that we may need to move away from the "all
data is equal" maxim when caching - ie that we prioritize having the
node keep certain data - but I certain that whether the data arrived by
DataRequest or InsertRequest is not the right way to weigh that... 

> Up with Freenet! Down with caching!
> 
> :-)
> 
> Ray
> 
> 
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