I agree with Ian. Unix in all honor, but when we already have an
application capable of providing the data running, writing seperate
applications that have to worry about the file structure and parsing is
just silly.
The node does the hard part, data is provided via a protocol that is
already specced (meaning we don't have to start worrying about
standardizing files and file placing etc), and UI clients can be written
on any platform without having to worry about how files and data are
stored on disk.
On Sun, Oct 07, 2001 at 11:23:45PM -0700, Ian Clarke wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 01:00:28AM -0500, thelema wrote:
> > Hunting around on their hard disk? When you initialize the node, you
> > just ask "Where to save the noderef?", and the user chooses where to put
> > it.
>
> And what does the asking? The node - perhaps via a console in Windows?
> FCP-based clients are the user interface, the node has no business
> talking to the user directly except via FCP, and putting something like
> this in the freenet.conf file is also inappropriate.
>
> > I'd be fine with a different java command that didn't go through the
> > node but just used the appropriate classes exactly like the node would.
> > The reason I want to avoid FCP is because I'm thinking in the unix
> > mindset where you write small, sharp tools that can be hooked together
> > to do stuff. I'd really like to have a command that took a reference
> > file and printed out whether each reference therein was good. And I
> > don't feel the need to write a networked program to do such.
>
> I could not disagree more. Exposing this functionality via FCP is much
> more sensible (even according to the Unix ethic) than writing Java
> classes to somehow pry inside an operational datastore (locking
> anyone?). Why do you think we moved away from the 0.3-style
> Freenet.client.Insert/RequestClient method of talking to the node in the
> first place?
>
> Ian.
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Oskar Sandberg
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