On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 05:53:06PM -0000, Simon Porter wrote: > Apologies for throwing a spanner in the works but what about pop up ad > blockers and also people automatically closing the window themselves. I > seem to have developed pop up ad reflex now. A window that pops up I > just close ASAP without a thought. Mozilla has an option to disable popup windows while still running javascript; other browsers probably do too. This is not currently available on a per-site basis. Personally, I think before 1.0 we will need to spend a little effort making a few mozilla settings available on a per site basis (a self contained patch that might well get integrated into mozilla, and doesn't establish the controversial freenet: URI type). But that's way in the future. Coming back to the main point... a lot of people will have popups turned off because of advertising (or even javascript), but they don't lose very much from the sound of it (we can create windows without javascript, the only thing we can't do is remove the browser controls).
> > -----Original Message----- > > From: devl-admin at freenetproject.org > [mailto:devl-admin at freenetproject.org] > > On Behalf Of Ian Clarke > > Sent: 20 December 2002 17:15 > > To: devl at freenetproject.org > > Subject: Re: [freenet-dev] Re: SplitFile UI Redux (Was: Re: > [freenet-dev] > > SplitFileRequestServlet > > > > On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 03:26:13PM +0000, Cruise wrote: > > > Because of course your average user will tell the difference between > > > javascript on a Freesite (bad) that appears when they click a link, > > > from javascript on a download page (good) that appears when they > > > click a link. > > > > Generally speaking, if someone has found a hole in the FProxy filter, > > and they plan to compromize someone's security through Javascript, > they > > aren't going to advertise that fact by making a window pop up! > > > > What exactly is the user supposed to think on seeing a window appear > > that is so completely terrible? The worst they can think - "hey, a > > window can only appear with Javascript and javascript in a freesite is > > bad, I had better email support at freenetproject.org" is: > > a) Unlikely > > b) Harmless > > > > > It's not that javascript is bad. It's not that your method is bad. > > > Far from it. It's just that a lot of people will have trouble > telling > > > the difference between stuff that is and stuff that isn't. Rather > > > than risk them accepting everything, surely it would be better to > > > accept nothing, and loose a tiny bit of visual nicety? > > > > That doesn't make sense. > > > > If someone is maliciously using Javascript in a freesite the user is > > unlikely to see any physical manifestation of it anyway, so what > exactly > > is being lost here? > > > > Ian. > > > > -- > > Ian Clarke > ian@[freenetproject.org|locut.us|cematics.com] > > Latest Project > http://cematics.com/kanzi > > Personal Homepage http://locut.us/ > > > _______________________________________________ > devl mailing list > devl at freenetproject.org > http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl > -- Matthew Toseland toad at amphibian.dyndns.org amphibian at users.sourceforge.net Freenet/Coldstore open source hacker. Employed full time by Freenet Project Inc. from 11/9/02 to 11/1/03 http://freenetproject.org/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20021220/02f0856e/attachment.pgp>
