On Sun, Oct 20, 2002 at 10:42:30PM +0200, Oskar Sandberg wrote: > Neither have I argued against deadlines - I am simply saying that the > deadlines ought to be about things we can control. I'm saying, go ahead > and test the current cvs, configure the installers, and make a package > that will be our release. But then we first release it as a candidate > and give it a few days (I said a week, but I'm not going to argue about > two days here or there) to see if any issues arrise. Then take that > exact package, changing absolutely nothing but the name, and make it the > release. There is still a deadline: get the release package together. > Test it for a week.
We have been doing this, that is what the pre-releases were. If there are no show-stoppers in the current pre-release, we can use that. I was informed by Matthew that there, in fact, were no show-stoppers in the current release. If there are, we fix them, release pre8 or whatever it is, test it to death for a few days (my suggestion was 5). > What is the worst thing that can happen using this strategy? That > critical bugs are found in the candidate and we are delayed. But what > would happen under the exact same circumstances if we had gone directly > to release instead? Well, then we would have released code with a > show-stopper bug in it as our high profile release. The problem is that one person's minor irritation is another person's critical bug - and debating which is which would merely serve to delay the release further. > You are right about one thing though, which is that these arguments > waste time better spent elsewhere, so I'm not going to get into the the > whole point by point back and forth Indeed. > (though I have to comment that if > you remember our previous releases as smooth, I envy your selective > memory.) I never said those releases were bug-free, merely that your release strategy wouldn't have made any difference. > I'm just going to remind you who it is here that is on the side > of one in a dispute of ~twenty... Not to disparage your rhetorical abilities, but trust me, arguing in favor of delaying a release before an audience of developers is like arguing in favor of free bananas before an audience of monkeys. Unfortunately I don't have the luxury of playing to the peanut gallery all the time as you do, somebody has to make the unpopular decisions. Ian. -- Ian Clarke ian@[freenetproject.org|locut.us|cematics.com] Latest Project http://cematics.com/kanzi Personal Homepage http://locut.us/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20021020/d3fc9883/attachment.pgp>
