> >Firstly, at what point did I say that not doing anything was not an 
> >option?  Secondly, making a request to freesite authors is hardly
> >"not doing anything".
> 
> you may feel like this has done somehting, but if this is the extent of 
> your action, then in *reality* you have done nothing.  you are still 
> linking to the same sites which have all the same issues you wanted to 
> address from the start. 

Now you are being an ass.

> ian, read it again, he says very clearly that he is not going to change 
> TFE at all:

No, YOU read it again:

> "My suggestion is of course by no means the only possible solution, and 
> I encourage the debate to continue. Removing a direct TFE link from the 
> gateway will *not* cause me to stop updating it. So don't let that 
> concern be a barrier to change. Although do be aware that I will also 
> not be changing TFE in any way simply to ensure it does get a permanent 
> gateway link under any new stricter linking regime."

He certainly does not say that he will not change TFE - what he does 
say is that he would change TFE just because he is threatened with 
removal from the gateway page, it is quite possible that he will 
change it because he is politely asked to.  This being the case, it 
would perfectly highlight a benefit of my approach.

> >To find out what people's opinions were - why else?

> issuing a utterly ineffectual statement like "please dont link to child 
> porn... it wont effect your listing on the freent gateway, but please 
> dont" just doesnt count as an effective action in my book, as is proven 
> by cofe's statements.

All that has been proven is that you have misinterpreted cofe's 
statements.

Ian.

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Ian Clarke                                                  ian at locut.us
Coordinator, The Freenet Project              http://freenetproject.org/
Founder, Locutus                                        http://locut.us/
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