On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 07:08:06PM +0100, Michael Rogers wrote:
> Matthew Toseland wrote:
> >When a request is *completed*. Otherwise we will be creating too many
> >tokens when a request is forwarded more than once!
> 
> OK, is it safe to generate a token when the request has been accepted by 
> the next hop?

No, it might return a RouteNotFound, in which case we'll have to try the
next node. If it's an insert on a small network then this is normally
the case.
> 
> >As far as congestion and CPU load go, there is only a
> >problem when we actually lose a request, correct? That would be a
> >timeout. Which should still generate a token; we know what requests are
> >in flight, and if one is lost it times out, and we still have a
> >completion so we still make a token, allowing another request to be sent
> >- but only after the timeout has expired, so usually a long time.
> 
> This sounds right... I may have been conflating the number of tokens 
> handed out with the rate at which they're handed out.
> 
> >Hmmm. Okay, what exactly are we talking about with rejected requests? I
> >had assumed that if a request was rejected, it would just remain on the
> >previous queue; if it keeps being rejected eventually it will timeout.
> >We don't have to keep things as they are...
> 
> Ah, I was assuming rejected requests would die. But it's probably better 
> if they remain on the previous queue, it uses less bandwidth if we 
> assume the source will just retransmit the request anyway.
> 
> >Why does it not control load? If it takes ages for requests to complete,
> >then we are compelled to wait ages between sending requests. This does
> >indeed propagate back across the network, because of the policy on
> >deserving nodes. Doesn't it?
> 
> You're right. In that case forget about my proposal, I'll just simulate 
> queues vs no queues, with a token handed out every time a request is 
> accepted by the next hop, answered locally, or times out. Thanks for 
> clearing that up. :-)

Okay, make sure you deal with routing one way or another.
> 
> Cheers,
> Michael
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Matthew J Toseland - toad at amphibian.dyndns.org
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