----- Anonymous ----- 2006.10.13 - 00:38:43GMT -----

I'm not trolling, I'm trying to make a point, or is the one on top of
your head going to beat me to it?

open net DOES provide additional security in one way that 0.7 in it's
current state is incapable of...

PLAUSIBLE DENYABILITY

How?  Because an open net node is free to establish new connections as
it learns about other nodes
and over time when older connections are lost or dropped they'll be
replaced by new ones.  Instead of having only a comparative few
connections like 0.7's darknet has, an open net will have 50, 75, 100,
150 or more connections depending on what the machine and OS it's
running on can handle.

This crowd of connections gives the open net user something that we
consider very important and at least
USED TO BE important to freenet's design.  It gives us Plausible
Denyability, the ability to truthfully state
that there is every reason that a given content was requested by one
node we are or were connected to and the
request was passed along to one or more nodes that we are or were
connected to.

Because 0.7's darknet design is the way it is, any given node will have
far fewer connections and they will not
change nearly as often as they do on open net.

0.7 MIGHT be able to do a better job of plausible denyability if it
weren't for one critical fact.

With very little exception, 0.7 darknet operators are bloody fast with
the 'remove reference' command.
I stopped looking for refs in IRC because of the attitude that if I
wasn't going to be up and running 24/7
then they didn't want to bother at all.  These people, and most other
0.7 operators that I've peered with
in the last four months have exhibited a similar 'fast draw' tendency.
Generally I've noted that If for
whatever reason I have to take my node down for a day or three, when I'm
ready to restart I have to get
all new references because NOBODY will let a reference sit if it's been
disconnected for more than a few
minutes.

0.7 has a lot going for it.  It does some things far better than 0.5.
In other ways 0.7 sucks greased owl
shit out of a festering pusbag with a straw.  Get node operators to get
off this "24/7 or nothing" attitude
maybe you might be able to build something good.  Add open net and
hybrid nodes to that and you'll really
be cooking with gas.

----- toad at zceUWxlSaHLmvEMnbr4RHnVfehA ----- 2006.10.25 - 18:39:22GMT
-----

He has a point about fast removal of nodes. Please folks, give a node a
chance before you summarily terminate it!

Maybe the problem is the warning we put up against ubernodes. We put
that in, not because disconnected nodes suck massive amounts of
bandwidth or CPU (they don't), but because ubernodes are bad, and
because adding everyone on the IRC channel without asking them to add
you is bad. We should change the message to reflect this.
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