On Friday 29 February 2008 12:37, Florent Daigni?re wrote: > * Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> [2008-02-29 11:43:03]: > > > Ian has stated that Frost is a separate project, and we should not wait for a > > usable FMS. (Background: Frost has been severely DoS'ed recently due to being > > based on KSK queues, and FMS is the answer). Right now we are not actually > > being DoS'ed, but yesterday we were; the spammer occasionally takes a day > > off, but IMHO he's likely to stop spamming now until shortly before we ship > > 0.7.0, and then make Frost unusable again. > > I don't think that fms is *the* answer; it's just part of what could be > one answer. I'm still sceptical on how introduction works and I haven't > seen any good description of the trust-ranking algorithm yet.
IMHO the basic design is reasonably sound. I haven't looked into the details that much, partly because of our moratorium on helping on it. > > > 3) Or we could make a working chat system of some kind a release blocker, and > > act accordingly: review third party code and help in porting FMS to java if > > that is necessary. At the moment FMS is written in C (and therefore not > > bundle-able), and uses a combination of HTTP and NNTP interfaces (and > > therefore is not user friendly). IMHO the critical path would be to translate > > it to java, implement it as a plugin, implement a separate plugin with a web > > interface based on that of Worst, bundle those, and let the Frost devs port > > Frost to use the plugin. Some of this has already been started, but I haven't > > seen much progress recently on the FMS board (which oddly is the only board > > never to have been DoS'ed). > > I agree with Ian: it shouldn't be a release blocker. We don't even have > a good design for an alternative : needless to say the spammer will be long > bored before we get a working implementation of it ;) Depends on his motives. > > You forgot one option here: What about bundling syndie ? Its design is > spam-proof and it has the moderation features some vocal people from the > community have been asking us for a long time. No idea re Syndie. > > NextGen$ > PS: Frost is the reference implementation of the current messenging > system but others are already available (Thaw with MiniFrost, > Worst,...). I think you should mention them too from time to time (their > authors deserve some credit as well). I did mention Worst, we can steal its web front end and bolt it onto FMS. That would produce a system IMHO easier to use even than Frost, because there could just be a menu item on the fproxy home page. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20080229/a413495b/attachment.pgp>
