Just to let you know (in case you still want to ship frost): I plan a new release for today that contains the 'workaround' for DOSed boards as well as the DOS visualization.
The java port of fms is still work in progress, I'm in contact with the dev (seagull) but he needs a few more evenings... On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> wrote: > On Friday 29 February 2008 12:37, Florent Daigni?re wrote: > > * Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> [2008-02-29 11:43:03]: > > > > > Ian has stated that Frost is a separate project, and we should not wait > for a > > > usable FMS. (Background: Frost has been severely DoS'ed recently due to > being > > > based on KSK queues, and FMS is the answer). Right now we are not > actually > > > being DoS'ed, but yesterday we were; the spammer occasionally takes a day > > > off, but IMHO he's likely to stop spamming now until shortly before we > ship > > > 0.7.0, and then make Frost unusable again. > > > > I don't think that fms is *the* answer; it's just part of what could be > > one answer. I'm still sceptical on how introduction works and I haven't > > seen any good description of the trust-ranking algorithm yet. > > IMHO the basic design is reasonably sound. I haven't looked into the details > that much, partly because of our moratorium on helping on it. > > > > > > 3) Or we could make a working chat system of some kind a release blocker, > and > > > act accordingly: review third party code and help in porting FMS to java > if > > > that is necessary. At the moment FMS is written in C (and therefore not > > > bundle-able), and uses a combination of HTTP and NNTP interfaces (and > > > therefore is not user friendly). IMHO the critical path would be to > translate > > > it to java, implement it as a plugin, implement a separate plugin with a > web > > > interface based on that of Worst, bundle those, and let the Frost devs > port > > > Frost to use the plugin. Some of this has already been started, but I > haven't > > > seen much progress recently on the FMS board (which oddly is the only > board > > > never to have been DoS'ed). > > > > I agree with Ian: it shouldn't be a release blocker. We don't even have > > a good design for an alternative : needless to say the spammer will be long > > bored before we get a working implementation of it ;) > > Depends on his motives. > > > > > You forgot one option here: What about bundling syndie ? Its design is > > spam-proof and it has the moderation features some vocal people from the > > community have been asking us for a long time. > > No idea re Syndie. > > > > > NextGen$ > > PS: Frost is the reference implementation of the current messenging > > system but others are already available (Thaw with MiniFrost, > > Worst,...). I think you should mention them too from time to time (their > > authors deserve some credit as well). > > I did mention Worst, we can steal its web front end and bolt it onto FMS. > That > would produce a system IMHO easier to use even than Frost, because there > could just be a menu item on the fproxy home page. > > _______________________________________________ > Devl mailing list > Devl at freenetproject.org > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl > -- __________________________________________________ GnuPG key: (0x48DBFA8A) Keyserver: pgpkeys.pca.dfn.de Fingerprint: 477D F057 1BD4 1AE7 8A54 8679 6690 E2EC 48DB FA8A __________________________________________________
