* Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> [2008-06-03 17:24:48]:

> On Monday 02 June 2008 15:13, Florent Daigni?re wrote:
> > * Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> [2008-06-02 15:03:37]:
> > 
> > > On Monday 02 June 2008 14:47, Florent Daigni?re wrote:
> > > > * Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> [2008-06-02 14:15:02]:
> > > > 
> > > > > Okay, what issues do we have here?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 1. The processes page takes longer than the copying files page. In 
> fact, 
> > > most 
> > > > > of the time of the installer is occupied by the processes page.
> > > > > 
> > > > > IMHO the solution to this is to bundle everything which is essential 
> with 
> > > the 
> > > > > base installer. Then the processes page will take much less time. 
> > > > > Also 
> we 
> > > > > won't need a separate bundle-installer, so it will be easier to use 
> > > > > in 
> > > places 
> > > > > where the Freenet website is blocked. The downside is the installer 
> will 
> > > be 
> > > > > significantly bigger.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm not convinced about that
> > > 
> > > Why? It won't be huge, if we don't bundle any unnecessary Huge Stuff (see 
> > > below). And it's not small now.
> > 
> > That means we will have to generate new installers on a regular basis...
> > I don't like that :p
> 
> Is there any good reason for this dislike?

Downloading stuffs during the install process actually tests the user's
connectivity; If we don't do that we will end up with more support
requests from users having non-freenet-related issues.

Moreover, if we want the "trust-chain" in between us and the newbies to
be established, we HAVE TO distribute the installer from emu and not
from mirrors... meaning that it has to be as small as possible if we
intend to stand a slashdoting.

Arguably we don't distribute the installer ourselves yet... but I was in
the process of changing that.
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