On Wednesday 04 June 2008 05:42, Florent Daigni?re wrote:
> * Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> [2008-06-03 17:24:48]:
>
> > On Monday 02 June 2008 15:13, Florent Daigni?re wrote:
> > > * Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> [2008-06-02 15:03:37]:
> > >
> > > > On Monday 02 June 2008 14:47, Florent Daigni?re wrote:
> > > > > * Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> [2008-06-02
14:15:02]:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Okay, what issues do we have here?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. The processes page takes longer than the copying files page. In
> > fact,
> > > > most
> > > > > > of the time of the installer is occupied by the processes page.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > IMHO the solution to this is to bundle everything which is
essential
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > > > base installer. Then the processes page will take much less time.
Also
> > we
> > > > > > won't need a separate bundle-installer, so it will be easier to
use in
> > > > places
> > > > > > where the Freenet website is blocked. The downside is the
installer
> > will
> > > > be
> > > > > > significantly bigger.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not convinced about that
> > > >
> > > > Why? It won't be huge, if we don't bundle any unnecessary Huge Stuff
(see
> > > > below). And it's not small now.
> > >
> > > That means we will have to generate new installers on a regular basis...
> > > I don't like that :p
> >
> > Is there any good reason for this dislike?
>
> Downloading stuffs during the install process actually tests the user's
> connectivity; If we don't do that we will end up with more support
> requests from users having non-freenet-related issues.
>
> Moreover, if we want the "trust-chain" in between us and the newbies to
> be established, we HAVE TO distribute the installer from emu and not
> from mirrors... meaning that it has to be as small as possible if we
> intend to stand a slashdoting.
>
> Arguably we don't distribute the installer ourselves yet... but I was in
> the process of changing that.
>
Well then we'll have to make it a lot smaller than even 3.6MB: we'd want some
sort of minimal shell that downloads a hash from emu and then fetches the
rest from a mirror.
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