On 02/13/2010 04:27 PM, Ian Clarke wrote: > On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Thomas Sachau <mail at tommyserver.de> wrote: > >> > I don't accept that, but I *do* support using GWT. GWT is a good means >> to generate cross platform Javascript code. >> >> I disagree with both of you. GWT is a mess, when you want to compile it >> yourself without binary and precompiled inclusions. So until you can present >> me a clean way to create a GWT copy from source, i strongly vote against it, >> this would make packagers work *much* harder. >> > > Why would you want to compile GWT yourself? Do you compile javac yourself > before you use it? Do you compile Eclipse?
Because i am a Gentoo Developer and provide a packaged freenet (ebuilds). Since Gentoo is a source based distro, everything should be compiled from source, this includes all dependencies. If i remember it right, there was a goal to get packagers for freenet for different distros. If you really want to force GWT as a dependency without a way to compile it from source, you will make it much harder to even find people, who will try to do the needed work. I can tell you that even the current set of dependencies is not easy to package, but GWT is a big, complete mess, all other freenet dependencies are a no-brainer against it. Yes, i do compile javac myself. No, i dont compile eclipse, but simply for the reason that i dont use it. >> In addition, also GWT creates javascript code, what about those users, who >> dont have or want to use javascript? >> > > Those users are welcome to create a lynx friendly version of FProxy for > themselves, we need to focus on the majority of users who are happy to use > javascript. > > Ian. Uh, i thought, freenet was about a way to securely and anonymously send and get data. If your target on those people, who want that, then you should also remember that there have been enough issues with javascripts (exploits and other nasty things on normal websites), so many users at least use something like NoScript, which blocks javascript by default. I did not even speak about those people, who run freenet on a server and use some text-based browser without javascript to access the WI. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 316 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20100213/1d1ead77/attachment.pgp>