On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Ian Clarke <ian at locut.us> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Evan Daniel <evanbd at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Ian Clarke <ian at locut.us> wrote: >> > Talk to any designer and ask >> > them if they can change a design through CSS alone and they'll think you >> > are >> > joking, I promise. >> >> Perhaps many designers, but not all. ?There are some notable ones who >> disagree with you, and they offer some rather stunning evidence: >> http://www.csszengarden.com/ > > Actually, you don't know that any of them would disagree with me. ?Find me a > designer who says they can redesign an entire website without touching the > HTML - I bet you can't.
I already did, and provided a link! The point of the web site is, quite precisely, that you can do CSS based design. "A demonstration of what can be accomplished visually through CSS-based design." "Designers have yet to make their mark. This needs to change." "[...] a resource we can all refer to when making the case for CSS-based design." They quite clearly say that the page is intended for web designers. They ask people to "submit a design". They don't permit changing a single character of the HTML. Are you saying that these are the same design? http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=/213/213.css http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=/212/212.css http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=211/211.css Obviously FProxy doesn't output HTML that supports that level of CSS based redesign at present. However, there's no reason it couldn't. If it did, most or all of the work for a new design wouldn't need to touch the HTML. Your viewpoint may be the majority one, but it is not the only one, even among professional web designers. Evan Daniel
