On 22/10/10 21:06, Ian Clarke wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Ximin Luo <infinity0 at gmx.com> wrote:
>> On 21/10/10 21:29, Ian Clarke wrote:
>>> Its not an "attitude", its a fact. Developers want to be part of
>>> projects which are actually being used, and of course they need to
>>> discover those projects in the first place. Few developers get excited
>>> about jumping on board a project with a declining user-base.
>> 
>> This doesn't necessarily result in good project co-ordination/management. 
>> New developers result in (temporarily) *more disruption*, unless a project
>> is well co-ordinated.
> 
> No it doesn't necessarily result in good project co-ordination, nor does it 
> necessarily result in bad project co-ordination. What it does result in is 
> more developers, which we clearly need.

"adding manpower to a late software project makes it later"

> You were the one that made the assertion that our desire to
> ensure that our releases receive publicity is the reason for this lack of
> perfection in other areas, and that is what I disagreed with.
> 
> If you can provide evidence to support your claim that our desire that
> people actually learn about and use Freenet is hurting the project then
> please present it.

Ignoring the dubious wording of your argument, over-prioritising one area
necessarily results in the neglect of another. As for evidence, I provided some
already, but obviously that wasn't convincing to you.

Look, you and Matthew are doing most of the work/drive behind the project. It's
disingenious to argue that some issue is TOTALLY UNRELATED to your 
ideals/efforts.

I didn't intend my argument to be an "accusation" so please don't treat it like
one. It's just some advice, you can take it or leave it. At least it looks like
you recognise that there *is* an issue, so I'll stop here.

>> This is an oversimplified way of looking at things. More users means more
>> support requests and more breakages and more attack attempts, and generally
>> greater complexity. You need the infrastructure to deal with all of this.
> 
> So we should avoid users because they might find bugs or ask for help?!

straw man.

X

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