On Saturday 10 Mar 2012 17:00:36 Daxter wrote:
> On Mar 10, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> > On Saturday 10 Mar 2012 16:44:55 Daxter wrote:
> >> On Mar 10, 2012, at 3:44 AM, Florent Daigniere wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 07:11:19PM -0600, Daxter wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> I'm all for HTTPS, but do we really want to outright *remove* 
> >>>> functionality from the site? Sure, HTTP isn't secure and all "modern" 
> >>>> web browsers support it. However, we would be making it harder for 
> >>>> people to learn about Freenet and potentially try it out. 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Why? You could still access it over HTTP... and be presented with 
> >>> (transparent) redirect to the secure version.
> >> 
> >> I just scratched an itch and discovered that even Lynx supports HTTPS? If 
> >> it really is the case that HTTPS has become so ubiquitous that users 
> >> wouldn't be affected, then sure, go ahead with it.
> >> 
> >> HOWEVER: the question really needs to be restated. Are there any countries 
> >> or ISPs that are known to disallow secure communications?
> >> 
> >>>> In the end I think we should do what every major website does today: 
> >>>> encrypt the important data and let the entire site be accessible 
> >>>> securely, but don't force it onto people.
> >>>> 
> >>>> -Daxter
> >>> 
> >>> It's very difficult to do and most websites do it wrong. You have to 
> >>> think about mixed-content errors, cookie flags, ...
> >>> 
> >>> Sending credentials in cleartext like we do on the wikis, with no secure 
> >>> alternative, is a disgrace.
> >>> 
> >>> Florent
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Can you give me an example of a website that in your mind does either the 
> >> mixed model or the secure-only model properly? It would be nice to compare 
> >> with them.
> >> 
> >> Actually, the wiki supports HTTPS right now. You'll get a certificate 
> >> error, but it works.
> > 
> > Why do you get a cert error? We have a wildcard cert!
> >> 
> >> While we're on the subject (as I've never bothered with HTTPS on the site 
> >> until now), turns out it's rather misconfigured. Both the wiki and the 
> >> main site return a certificate for emu.freenetproject.org? That address 
> >> isn't accessible--what was it, and shouldn't we get this fixed?
> > 
> > Eh? I thought we used the wildcard cert for everything?
> 
> Nope, both are using a cert for emu.freenetproject.org. Also, the certificate 
> is bound to expire on 4/27/2012 so we really should get this fixed!

Are you sure it isn't a wildcard cert? Wildcard is an extension. IIRC I don't 
see a warning on HTTPS://freenetproject.org/.

I agree we need to renew it though. :(
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