That's why I clarified with postmodern neomarxism, although FYI - in the US everyone views "woke" as a pejorative <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adPXDTvADD0>.
Here is an excellent book <https://www.amazon.com/Woke-Racism-Religion-Betrayed-America-ebook/dp/B095JLK96B> about it by a Columbia University linguistics professor. Let me know what you think! On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 4:05 PM craig mcgee < craig.mc...@guilt-management.org.uk> wrote: > I take woke to mean definition 1. > https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/woke > what is so wrong with that? > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Ian Clarke <i...@freenet.org> > *To:* devl@freenetproject.org > *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2023 9:55 PM > *Subject:* Re: Racist statement of Ian Clarke on this list > > I am a classical liberal and a social libertarian. I grew up as part of a > small religious minority and saw ethnic bigotry at a young age. Even as a > child I instantly recognized it as evil. > > I have no problem with left liberals, libertarians, or conservatives. I > think they each bring a critical perspective. > > I hate identitarianism in all its forms, on the right and the left. > > The woke mind virus, more formally postmodern neo-marxism, is the greatest > threat to civilization today. It is a cancer that has already done > incredible damage. > > Anyone who has a problem with that can touch grass. You can quote me on > that. > > Thanks for your support on the name change :) > > > On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 3:36 PM DJ Amireh <cactus...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I agreed with Ian on the name change and I think "Freenet classic" is >> perfectly acceptable and indicates exactly what it is -- the classic >> version. It's not saying it's outdated or legacy or anything like that. And >> I sympathize with Ian's frustration dealing with this but personally as a >> member of "the next generation" that Ian is concerned about I was >> disappointed to see this "anti woke rhetoric" being thrown around. The next >> generation is not pro or anti woke but throwing around accusations of >> "virtue signalling" is typical alt right rhetoric and something I was >> disappointed to see from someone representing a project that I hold in high >> regards. >> >> On Sun, Jan 22, 2023, 12:16 PM Ian Clarke <i...@freenet.org> wrote: >> >>> Woke virtue signaling noted. I don't care whether you find it funny. I'm >>> not seeking your approval. >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 11:12 AM craig mcgee < >>> craig.mc...@guilt-management.org.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> Ian, >>>> I didn't say your statement was racist, just that I didnt find it >>>> funny, that's all. I gathered it was made as a joke, but just wanted to >>>> state my opposition to racism, as russel requested, and leave it at that. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> *From:* Ian Clarke <i...@freenet.org> >>>> *To:* devl@freenetproject.org >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2023 5:07 PM >>>> *Subject:* Re: Racist statement of Ian Clarke on this list >>>> >>>> Only a midwit idiot would think that remark was racist, particularly >>>> one who brought racism into the conversation in the first place. >>>> >>>> I thought it was funny, and that's all that matters. If you don't like >>>> it, I suggest you touch grass. >>>> >>>> I'm going to start blocking you idiots. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 9:38 AM craig mcgee < >>>> craig.mc...@guilt-management.org.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have to admit I was confused by the statement Ian made. Joke or not, >>>>> it wasn't funny. >>>>> but this is as far as I will go on the matter as I don't wish to get >>>>> involved in the freenet dispute. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> *From:* Russell Glenn <rusgl...@swismail.com> >>>>> *To:* devl@freenetproject.org >>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2023 3:33 PM >>>>> *Subject:* Racist statement of Ian Clarke on this list >>>>> >>>>> Mr. Ian Clarke, >>>>> >>>>> when discussing your acquisition of a secondary domain, >>>>> "freenet.org", for your highly controversial unilateral decision >>>>> to rewrite the Freenet Project which has always been hosted >>>>> on "freenetproject.org", you said the following: >>>>> >>>>> > Yeah, all of the provocatively racist domain names were taken anyway. >>>>> >>>>> Notice that this is a VERBATIM quote, and the email of yours did >>>>> not contain ANY other content, nothing to reduce the gravity of >>>>> this statement; the gravity of which cannot be reduced anyway. >>>>> Proof: >>>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/devl@freenetproject.org/msg55336.html >>>>> >>>>> As a black person, but not only as such, I inform you that racism >>>>> is NOT tolerable by any means whatsoever on this planet and will >>>>> NEVER be. >>>>> >>>>> And before you attempt to dismiss this as a joke: >>>>> Millions of people died due to racism. >>>>> You, especially as a white person, are not entitled to joke about that. >>>>> Nobody is. >>>>> >>>>> And this piles onto the provable falsehoods and other insults you have >>>>> produced on this list in the previous days. >>>>> >>>>> Therefore, it is my duty to join the ranks of people who request >>>>> you to: >>>>> * immediately step down as leader of the Freenet Project and >>>>> * leave its board and >>>>> * transfer ownership of the domains to the Freenet developer team and >>>>> * transfer ownership of all other related accounts and >>>>> * cease to use the name "Freenet" for any of your new projects. >>>>> >>>>> Racists, or those who joke about racism, do not belong into positions >>>>> where power is wielded. >>>>> >>>>> As you have failed to prove that the board of the project is still >>>>> constructed of active members of the community, >>>>> and not of those who have been inactive for decades as Mr. Daigniere >>>>> stated, >>>>> I join those who request leadership is transferred to the >>>>> leading developer. >>>>> To my knowledge, this is Mr. Babenhauserheide. >>>>> >>>>> Should he not accept the position, I would vouch for the previous lead >>>>> developer Mr. Dougherty, or anyone of the choice of the two. >>>>> >>>>> Finally, I urgently implore anyone who reads this email to state >>>>> their support. We must stand united against racism. >>>>> >>>>> - Russell Glenn >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Ian Clarke >>>> Founder, The Freenet Project >>>> Email: i...@freenet.org <i...@freenetproject.org> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ian Clarke >>> Founder, The Freenet Project >>> Email: i...@freenet.org <i...@freenetproject.org> >>> >> > > -- > Ian Clarke > Founder, The Freenet Project > Email: i...@freenet.org <i...@freenetproject.org> > > -- Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenet.org <i...@freenetproject.org>
