Do you seriously think Wikipedia is a reliable source on anything remotely related to woke ideology? That's hilarious.
The term "Cultural Marxism" is used by many Jewish people, and when they use it, they aren't talking about a far-right ideology. They're talking about a far-left ideology. What you're talking about is a form of terminological guilt-by-association, a very dishonest way to try to discredit someone simply by them *mentioning the name of an ideology*. It's Orwellian. Try to diversify your news sources, you're living in a bubble. On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 5:01 PM DJ Amireh <cactus...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sounds like you are unfamiliar with the contemporary discussion using the > terms you are bandying about. Heres an encyclopedia article that may > enlighten you: > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory I > believe the first paragraph fits what you are saying to a T, claiming the > downfall of western civilization and accusing your opponents of > "neomarxism" : "The term "*Cultural Marxism*" refers to a far-right > <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right> antisemitic > <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitic> conspiracy theory > <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory> which claims that Western > Marxism <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Marxism> is the basis of > continuing academic and intellectual efforts to subvert Western culture > <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_culture>. The conspiracy theory > misrepresents the Frankfurt School > <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School> as being responsible > for modern progressive > <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_politics> movements, identity > politics <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_politics>, and political > correctness <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness>, > claiming there is an ongoing and intentional subversion > <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subversion> of Western society via a > planned culture war <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_war> that > undermines the Christian values of traditionalist conservatism > <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditionalist_conservatism> and seeks > to replace them with the culturally liberal values of the 1960s." > > On Sun, Jan 22, 2023, 5:48 PM Ian Clarke <i...@freenet.org> wrote: > >> I understand the exact meaning of the terms I've been using, but if you >> don't you can just admit that. I'm happy to explain. >> >> I'm just as opposed to corruption as you are, whether in government or >> private organizations. as I said, I respect left-liberals. >> >> Postmodern neomarxism, aka the woke-mind-virus, has nothing to do with >> fixing any of that, on the contrary it's a whole different kind of >> corruption, far more dangerous. >> >> Is this all completely new to you? I can recommend a few books if it >> would help. Do you live in an English-speaking country? >> >> On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 4:42 PM DJ Amireh <cactus...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> The biggest threat to free speech today is the take over of corporations >>> and shareholders as the arbiters of what is and is not allowed to be >>> spoken. We allow this to happen because corporations and shareholders "know >>> what's best for the economy" and if you don't like it you're a "postmodern >>> neomarxist." Sad to see these thought stopping political buzzwords being >>> thrown around to label, demean and dismiss any opposition to the corporate >>> takeover of speech and thought. >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2023, 5:13 PM Ian Clarke <i...@freenet.org> wrote: >>> >>>> That's why I clarified with postmodern neomarxism, although FYI - in >>>> the US everyone views "woke" as a pejorative >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adPXDTvADD0>. >>>> >>>> Here is an excellent book >>>> <https://www.amazon.com/Woke-Racism-Religion-Betrayed-America-ebook/dp/B095JLK96B> >>>> about >>>> it by a Columbia University linguistics professor. Let me know what you >>>> think! >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 4:05 PM craig mcgee < >>>> craig.mc...@guilt-management.org.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I take woke to mean definition 1. >>>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/woke >>>>> what is so wrong with that? >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> *From:* Ian Clarke <i...@freenet.org> >>>>> *To:* devl@freenetproject.org >>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2023 9:55 PM >>>>> *Subject:* Re: Racist statement of Ian Clarke on this list >>>>> >>>>> I am a classical liberal and a social libertarian. I grew up as part >>>>> of a small religious minority and saw ethnic bigotry at a young age. Even >>>>> as a child I instantly recognized it as evil. >>>>> >>>>> I have no problem with left liberals, libertarians, or conservatives. >>>>> I think they each bring a critical perspective. >>>>> >>>>> I hate identitarianism in all its forms, on the right and the left. >>>>> >>>>> The woke mind virus, more formally postmodern neo-marxism, is the >>>>> greatest threat to civilization today. It is a cancer that has already >>>>> done >>>>> incredible damage. >>>>> >>>>> Anyone who has a problem with that can touch grass. You can quote me >>>>> on that. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for your support on the name change :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 3:36 PM DJ Amireh <cactus...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I agreed with Ian on the name change and I think "Freenet classic" is >>>>>> perfectly acceptable and indicates exactly what it is -- the classic >>>>>> version. It's not saying it's outdated or legacy or anything like that. >>>>>> And >>>>>> I sympathize with Ian's frustration dealing with this but personally as a >>>>>> member of "the next generation" that Ian is concerned about I was >>>>>> disappointed to see this "anti woke rhetoric" being thrown around. The >>>>>> next >>>>>> generation is not pro or anti woke but throwing around accusations of >>>>>> "virtue signalling" is typical alt right rhetoric and something I was >>>>>> disappointed to see from someone representing a project that I hold in >>>>>> high >>>>>> regards. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2023, 12:16 PM Ian Clarke <i...@freenet.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Woke virtue signaling noted. I don't care whether you find it funny. >>>>>>> I'm not seeking your approval. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 11:12 AM craig mcgee < >>>>>>> craig.mc...@guilt-management.org.uk> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ian, >>>>>>>> I didn't say your statement was racist, just that I didnt find it >>>>>>>> funny, that's all. I gathered it was made as a joke, but just wanted to >>>>>>>> state my opposition to racism, as russel requested, and leave it at >>>>>>>> that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> *From:* Ian Clarke <i...@freenet.org> >>>>>>>> *To:* devl@freenetproject.org >>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2023 5:07 PM >>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Racist statement of Ian Clarke on this list >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Only a midwit idiot would think that remark was racist, >>>>>>>> particularly one who brought racism into the conversation in the first >>>>>>>> place. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I thought it was funny, and that's all that matters. If you don't >>>>>>>> like it, I suggest you touch grass. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm going to start blocking you idiots. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 9:38 AM craig mcgee < >>>>>>>> craig.mc...@guilt-management.org.uk> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have to admit I was confused by the statement Ian made. Joke or >>>>>>>>> not, it wasn't funny. >>>>>>>>> but this is as far as I will go on the matter as I don't wish to >>>>>>>>> get involved in the freenet dispute. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> *From:* Russell Glenn <rusgl...@swismail.com> >>>>>>>>> *To:* devl@freenetproject.org >>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2023 3:33 PM >>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Racist statement of Ian Clarke on this list >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mr. Ian Clarke, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> when discussing your acquisition of a secondary domain, >>>>>>>>> "freenet.org", for your highly controversial unilateral decision >>>>>>>>> to rewrite the Freenet Project which has always been hosted >>>>>>>>> on "freenetproject.org", you said the following: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > Yeah, all of the provocatively racist domain names were taken >>>>>>>>> anyway. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Notice that this is a VERBATIM quote, and the email of yours did >>>>>>>>> not contain ANY other content, nothing to reduce the gravity of >>>>>>>>> this statement; the gravity of which cannot be reduced anyway. >>>>>>>>> Proof: >>>>>>>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/devl@freenetproject.org/msg55336.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As a black person, but not only as such, I inform you that racism >>>>>>>>> is NOT tolerable by any means whatsoever on this planet and will >>>>>>>>> NEVER be. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And before you attempt to dismiss this as a joke: >>>>>>>>> Millions of people died due to racism. >>>>>>>>> You, especially as a white person, are not entitled to joke about >>>>>>>>> that. >>>>>>>>> Nobody is. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And this piles onto the provable falsehoods and other insults you >>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>> produced on this list in the previous days. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Therefore, it is my duty to join the ranks of people who request >>>>>>>>> you to: >>>>>>>>> * immediately step down as leader of the Freenet Project and >>>>>>>>> * leave its board and >>>>>>>>> * transfer ownership of the domains to the Freenet developer team >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> * transfer ownership of all other related accounts and >>>>>>>>> * cease to use the name "Freenet" for any of your new projects. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Racists, or those who joke about racism, do not belong into >>>>>>>>> positions >>>>>>>>> where power is wielded. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As you have failed to prove that the board of the project is still >>>>>>>>> constructed of active members of the community, >>>>>>>>> and not of those who have been inactive for decades as Mr. >>>>>>>>> Daigniere >>>>>>>>> stated, >>>>>>>>> I join those who request leadership is transferred to the >>>>>>>>> leading developer. >>>>>>>>> To my knowledge, this is Mr. Babenhauserheide. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Should he not accept the position, I would vouch for the previous >>>>>>>>> lead >>>>>>>>> developer Mr. Dougherty, or anyone of the choice of the two. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Finally, I urgently implore anyone who reads this email to state >>>>>>>>> their support. We must stand united against racism. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - Russell Glenn >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Ian Clarke >>>>>>>> Founder, The Freenet Project >>>>>>>> Email: i...@freenet.org <i...@freenetproject.org> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Ian Clarke >>>>>>> Founder, The Freenet Project >>>>>>> Email: i...@freenet.org <i...@freenetproject.org> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Ian Clarke >>>>> Founder, The Freenet Project >>>>> Email: i...@freenet.org <i...@freenetproject.org> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Ian Clarke >>>> Founder, The Freenet Project >>>> Email: i...@freenet.org <i...@freenetproject.org> >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> Ian Clarke >> Founder, The Freenet Project >> Email: i...@freenet.org <i...@freenetproject.org> >> > -- Ian Clarke Founder, The Freenet Project Email: i...@freenet.org <i...@freenetproject.org>
