Jeff,

In both cases I disagree that the current warning system should
appear.  The warning system we have today is really not that helpful,
and I don't want to bring it back the same way for boards or for
libraries.
The advanced_config option was something Seth and I discussed as a
simple stopgap for V8 if we are looking at something better for V9.

A more helpful warning system:
- Would not use pop-up dialogs that block the UI to let people know
that any warnings exist (instead would show up in the info bar, the
same way our previous-format-version warning does)
- Would have a more rich system of logging, so that people always get
context about what part of their file had an issue

I think if we want to show this info, we need a new kind of REPORTER
that can capture context rather than just a string, and a "post-import
report" dialog launched from the infobar.

The library loader can keep track of these on a per-library basis so
that the infobar can be shown in the symbol/footprint editor after
launch.

-Jon

On Sat, May 4, 2024 at 4:53 AM Jeff Young <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Presumably we can tell the difference (in the code) between a schematic or 
> layout import and a library import?
>
> It would seem to me like a schematic or layout import should show the 
> warnings (even without an advanced setting or the like).
>
> Personally I also think the library importer should show the warnings the 
> very first time.  Maybe we could do that by setting a plugin option 
> (m_warningsShown or something) after reading the library?  I think those are 
> saved per-row in the lib table, but I’m not 100% sure.
>
> Cheers,
> Jeff.
>
>
> On 4 May 2024, at 09:47, 'Stefan Weber' via KiCad Developers 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I recently started a discussion with @Jon Evans in my MR 
> https://gitlab.com/kicad/code/kicad/-/merge_requests/1935 regarding the 
> visibility of Altium importer warning & errors for not yet supported 
> schematic and layout features.
>
> Since commit 
> https://gitlab.com/kicad/code/kicad/-/commit/83be5ba63d82e237b8944ee6ee7c639215b14027
>  the Kicad Altium Importer does no longer shows warning & errors for not yet 
> supported schematic and layout features in release builds.
>
> As Jon mentioned this was implemented to get rid of those annoying warnings 
> which pop-up every time you use an Altium library which contains a not yet 
> supported schematic and layout features. This I absolutely understand.
>
> I also do not expect that importing data from other EDA tools will be 100% 
> accurate. But as the importer already knows it's limits I personally would 
> like to have the possibility to get those warnings and errors back when I am 
> importing an Altium schematic or layout.
>
> Jon mentioned:
>
> "I would be fine with adding some new way to show these optionally, in a less 
> obtrusive way."
>
> "We try to avoid settings wherever possible. It is best to come up with a 
> solution that can be enabled for everyone, meaning that people who want the 
> information can get it in a way that does not slow down people who don't want 
> the information.
> One option would be to create a "post-import report" that can optionally be 
> launched from an infobar notification, for example."
>
> "One pretty simple option would be an advanced_config flag that changes the 
> behavior of the WXLOG_REPORTER to use logging calls that are present in 
> release builds"
>
> I am curious what's the opinion of others.
>
> Best regards,
> Stefan
>
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