On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Jonathan Solichin <[email protected]>wrote:
> Hello friends, > > Thank you, glad to hear that I am getting somewhere > > Here is a better version of the sidebar: > http://jssolichin.com/public/4/4.%20Home-alt.png > > The boxes with the x will be icons. having those I think will help inform > the reader what is available, instead of the previous metro like overflow. > It will also allow a space for numbers showing how much content is > available in that section. When you hover over that section, it will still > reveal the hover nav in the last mock up to allow for easier clicking and > clarity (as to what the icons are): > > http://jssolichin.com/public/4/3.%20Home-navhover.png > > I know that the icons will not fit with longer section names like comments, > so the icon might be placed above the section name, or be smaller. On that > point, I would just like to mention that i'm hoping to also allow the > reader to resize the sidebar size fluidly. So if they are reading the > comments section, they can devote more space to it. This will, however, be > disabled in the mobile version. > > * The way the navigation links are organized/grouped together is a bit > > weird (the upper part with wiki/space/page links) > > > Visually, I'm not sure if it came through in the wireframe, but i'm > imagining it like the iphone folder [1], where we have the breadcrumb/nav > (wiki/space/pages) always visible, then when the user clicks it, it reveals > the "watch page, access rights, etc." By iphone folder like i mean, it > pushes everything down and visually seems to reveal something underneath. > But that last point is trivial. > > More technically, since the navigation is vertical, the breadcrumb style is > a bit unclear, and do need to be more refined. Right now i'm thinking > maybe a folder esque structure: > x wiki > \_ x space > \_x pages > > but I feel like that might get to cluttered. Maybe we should just remove > the breadcrumb navigation and just have it like in the lyrebird where it > appears as part of the content and not as a "global nav?" What does the > community think? > > * On the desktop you probably don't want that inner scroller, but > > rather have the right panel fixed and keep the page's natural scroll. > > You're right, that would make sense. I think the right solution would be to > make the right sidebar scroll like the chatlist window on facebook where if > you hover over the area, it will reveal a scroll bar indicator to show your > vertical location and allow you to scroll that section using the mouse > wheel. > > Do you guys think it will be ok that we do not have the up and down arrow? > or would that be bad usability. I personally think it will be fine since > even sites like gmail uses a non native scroll indicator without the up and > down arrow--it's just prettier. > I don't have any issue with a JS scroller to make it beautiful, as long as it preserve native behavior (keyboard, etc.) and that it degrades nicely when JS is not present. Jerome > > The menu part still needs to be refined > > Did I address it earlier in this email, or am I still missing something? > Can you clarify specifically which point for me to work at? > > > Putting the menu on the left would be more familiar to mobile users (the > > > nav menu is usually on the right in all the mobile apps I regularly > > use). > > Maybe we don't want to be like every other app ;p > > I don't know, I think we can try it out on the right and see how it > > feels. Same for the desktop in fact ; though I think it's going to > > feel more natural on the right in that case. > > I think both points are valid. I personally chose the right side because I > feel like when you land on a page, you want to read content first. But I do > know what you mean, left is the traditional side and is used in giant sites > like gmail, facebook, hotmail and so forth. I think we should get more > input on this. > > > Jonathan: I don't remember whether Jérôme pointed you to his lyrebird > > work: > > > > > > http://www.velociter.fr/journal/lyrebird-a-xwiki-skin-based-on-bootstrap-cssbut > > > it could be an additional source of inspiration for you. > > I don't remember I did. > > Let me fix the link : > > > > > http://www.velociter.fr/journal/lyrebird-a-xwiki-skin-based-on-bootstrap-css > > Also, sources are on github : https://github.com/jvelo/Lyrebird< > https://github.com/jvelo/Lyrebird;cid=1338111304826-974> > > Thank you, this will be a wonderful resource! > > Let me know what you guys think. > > Best, > Jonathan Solichin > > [1] http://media.tecca.com/2011/02/17/mh-630-iphone-folder-header-630w.jpg > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > -- Jérôme Velociter Winesquare http://www.winesquare.net/ _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

