Hi Jonathan, Thanks for giving us news.
See below On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Jonathan Solichin <[email protected]>wrote: > Hello friends, > > Caty, thanks for bringing up those points. > > My only concert is that the functionality is spread in multiple places. > > I was thinking of that as well just as i hit send. The export section > should definitely be part of the page interest area to consolidate (should > have moved that). > > Originally, I put the page functions under the section navigation (main, > comments, attachments etc.) because I wanted to put it under the main > section (and thus spliced in between the quicklinks and logo/search (global > stuff)) since I thought that its presence is not needed 100% of the time. > But now that I think about it, maybe it should be there 100% of the time > because of the table of contents. What do you (guys) think? > > Also you now separated the menus in three parts: upper part, edit menu, > > view menu. > > That's true. The original thought was that the edit (for page) should be on > the page since it is a prominent action attached to the content. But maybe, > since the meta data/view of the page is being consolidated on the right, I > will move it there also. I am thinking that I will put the view/page edit > into a subsection of the lighter page area (date modified/created etc.) in > the sidebar since they are both current user actions. > > As for the upper part, I understand what you mean that it'd be nice to know > what actions can be done, but I think it's ok that it's on top separated > since they are not necessarily page specific action right? they act more on > a global level? To resolve this, how about adding a pencil icon to these > three things that allow for user action (or maybe even just a color change > to differentiate actionable section). What do you think? > > Another thing is the breadcrumb: what is the difference between 'Page: > > Platform Features' and 'Page Editing' ? Where am I now? What is the > page's > > title? 'Platform Features' of 'Page Editing'? > > i apologize, that breadcrumb is a bit erronous as a result of mishmashed > samples. It should read: wiki: XWIKI Platform >> space: Features >> page: > Page Editing. > The page title, instead of "Wiki Home," should have been "Page Editing". > > Also for the mobile version you didn't clearly represented the difference > > between the collapse/expanded states of gadgets like 'Welcome' and > 'Spaces' > > (they can be mistaken with headings). > > good call, i will add a + - to signify them. > > As for progress report. It unfortunate for me to have to say that this is > harder/taking more time than expected. I am struggling at the moment to > create the most efficient way to realize the design. A lot of the > fluidity/interaction that I had hoped for seems to require a lot more codes > than anticipated--that is: the use of javascript instead of native > css/html. Even then there are a lot of conflicting codes that needs to be > brought together. The complexity is sort of evident in research. Briefly > you can check out fb/g+'s implementation. Facebook's approach utilizes a > lot of js, and seems to falter when it is disabled (something i'm really > worried about). It rewrites the page often (classes etc.) and writes css > inline and so forth. G+ uses an even more interesting approach of using > iFrames. It is true that this sidebar should not be as complicated as the > ones that I am researching from, but as a result of the complexity of > existing sidebars that I wish for our sidebar to be similar to (and thus > super hard to reverse engineer and understand), and the relative shortage > on this topic, I am having to research/experiment more than I expected. > In any regards it is all very exciting, and I am getting to learn more than > I expected on this project. This is the prototype that I am currently > working on (def some bugs): http://jssolichin.com/xwiki/ Can you describe us the issue you are trying to address regarding this sidebar and the associated javascript ? It looks like unnecessary complexity for me. Aren't media queries just enough to have the sidebar resize/move when the viewport size changes ? I'd like we keep things simple as much as possible, so tell me if I'm missing something. > > There are bugs, but I really wanted to share what I had so far. Some of the > things to test that I have been working on is the resizing of the side bar, > the scrolling, resizing the browser and so forth. I know it is quite > simple, but trying to figure out the correct method was/is > a challenge. It's still a long ways to go, but I hope that things will get > a lot faster since one of the core features/points of this skin is this > sidebar. > > I know that it is not in the code styles of xwiki/implemented into xwiki > yet, I think I might need to change the timeline with this development, to > make room for this. Right now I'm trying to focus on quick dev, to see > what's possible, and what will need a lot more work. > > On another side note, I am also still having trouble building xwiki from > sources (the other half of my time). Just quickly, what environment are you > guys using (in terms of OS/java)? I tried ubuntu, and now mint linux, but > am still having some trouble with maven from terminal (following the guide > on sona system) (i am able to build with eclipse, but I am not sure how to > run it with jetty/hsqldb so I can access it on my browser?) Also, are you > guys using oracle or openjdk? > Most of use are using either OSX or Linux. Are you following http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Building ? What module are you trying to build exactly ? Most of the times you don't need to build everything, but just the module(s) you are working on (and possibly the final distribution, like XE). Jerome > > Thanks for all the support and help thus far, > Jonathan Solichin > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > -- Jérôme Velociter Winesquare http://www.winesquare.net/ _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
