On Nov 27, 2012, at 6:30 PM, Jerome Velociter <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 11/27/2012 06:26 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
>> On Nov 27, 2012, at 6:12 PM, Eduard Moraru <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> It's also about New Year's Eve. A lot o people usually take time off during
>>> that period, as you probably know, and will not be available for releases
>>> (stabilization, bugxifing, testfixing, etc).
>>> 
>>> IMO, we should either pick a date that is between Christmas and New Year's
>>> Eve (though I don`t see much success in that either), or just release
>>> around them, like +/- 1 week or something, that's if we don`t want to
>>> promise stuff and end up delaying due to lack of people to fix release
>>> issues.
>> That's what I've tried to do:
>> * M1 before christmas
>> * RC1 after christmas (one week after)
>> * Final after new year's eve (one week after)
>> 
>> That was the best dates I was able to find unless we want to postpone by 1 
>> month more…
>> 
>> If you can think of better dates please suggest them.
> 
> I agree with Eduard that between Xmas and NYE would be better than the 31th.
> 
> If I were to be the RM, I'm would be more likely to prefer releasing RC1 on 
> the 27th/28th or 29th rather than on the 31th.

ah indeed you're right, I had missed that :)

So new dates:

* 4.4M1: 10th of December (in 2 week from now)
* 4.4RC1: 17th of December
* 4.4Final: 27th of December (between Xmas and NY)

Thanks!
-Vincent

> Jerome.
> 
>> 
>>> Note: I am not familiar with how previous year releases around the holidays
>>> worked out so, if, based on experience, you still consider that it's still
>>> a good idea, please ignore my comments.
>> It's probably a bit chaotic but I feel it's better than postponing by 1 
>> month altogether, especially since want to be able to start the 5.x cycle 
>> ASAP (we're all eager to start it :)) and also to slowly align it to the 
>> beginning of the year.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Eduard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 27, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Eduard Moraru <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi devs,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 4.4 and 4.5 are the last 2 stabilization releases for the 4.x cycle. As
>>>>>> such they are meant to be short releases (1 month per release) and the
>>>> idea
>>>>>> is to have:
>>>>>> - 4.4: December
>>>>>> - 4.5: January
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This will allow us to start working on 5.0 at the beginning of February.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thus for 4.4 (and 4.5) I propose to work on the following stabilizations
>>>>>> (we shouldn't work on new features):
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * AWM stabilization. Assignee: Marius
>>>>>> ** Remove the i18n hack and use the new localization module to create a
>>>>>> translation bundle for the application
>>>>>> ** Add new field types (for page, image and attachment at least, with
>>>>>> pickers)
>>>>>> ** Improve the title and content fields (e.g. prevent dragging more than
>>>>>> one title or content field)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * Extension Manager. Specifically we still need to able to
>>>> install/upgrade
>>>>>> a wiki farm in a few minutes. Assignee: Thomas/Marius
>>>>>> ** XWIKI-8252: Migration from an older version will cause many merge
>>>>>> conflicts with the Distribution Manager
>>>>>> ** XWIKI-8443: When uninstalling a XAR extension a question should be
>>>>>> asked for various conflict use cases
>>>>>> ** Find a way to allow having each wiki admin doing upgrade instead of
>>>>>> upgrading the whole farm by a farm admin which don't always know how to
>>>> fix
>>>>>> conflict like in myxwiki.org for example
>>>>>> ** XWIKI-8173 (EM should not allow installing package exposing an
>>>>>> installed feature)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * Translation module stabilizations/improvements. Assignee: Thomas
>>>>>> ** XWIKI-8263 (Allow providing translations in a jar extension).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * SOLR improvements: we need to continue working on it and we can decide
>>>>>> in the course of 4.4/4.5 if it's good enough to be made the default
>>>> search
>>>>>> or if we need to wait for 5.x to make it the default. Assignee: Edy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * Usability: small usability improvements. Assignee: Caty/JV. Caty/JV,
>>>>>> could you please list what you'd like to work on?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * Workspace bug fixes (there are some raised by Anca for example).
>>>>>> Assignee: Edy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * And a lot of bug fixes. Manuel reported a lot of browsers issue for IE
>>>>>> that we need to fix
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Anything else committers/contributors would like to work on for 4.4?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dates
>>>>>> =====
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 4.4M1: 17 Dec
>>>>>> 4.4RC1: 31 Dec
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Are we sure this is a realistic date?
>>>> I don't understand what you mean. Because of Christmas? I already
>>>> mentioned that I gave it one more week as we usually do because of this.
>>>> 
>>>>> I think we should reconsider this
>>>>> now, instead of (almost certainly) delaying it on the spot, and looking
>>>> bad.
>>>> 
>>>> Any date is a good date. Even one week from now is good date. You just
>>>> need to adjust what you're going to tackle during the timeframe that's all
>>>> (that's called timeboxing).
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> -Vincent
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Eduard
>>>>> 
>>>>> 4.4Final: 7 January
>>>>>> Note that I'd have normally put RC1 on 24th but since that's the
>>>> Christmas
>>>>>> holidays, I've given RC1 2 weeks instead.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Can everyone review what I've put tentatively and tell me if it's ok?
>>>> Also
>>>>>> could you create the associated JIRA issues and reply to this email with
>>>>>> them so that I can prepare the roadmap page on xwiki.org?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks a lot
>>>>>> -Vincent

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