On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 7:42 PM, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> wrote:
>
> On Nov 27, 2012, at 6:30 PM, Jerome Velociter <jer...@velociter.fr> wrote:
>
>> On 11/27/2012 06:26 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
>>> On Nov 27, 2012, at 6:12 PM, Eduard Moraru <enygma2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's also about New Year's Eve. A lot o people usually take time off during
>>>> that period, as you probably know, and will not be available for releases
>>>> (stabilization, bugxifing, testfixing, etc).
>>>>
>>>> IMO, we should either pick a date that is between Christmas and New Year's
>>>> Eve (though I don`t see much success in that either), or just release
>>>> around them, like +/- 1 week or something, that's if we don`t want to
>>>> promise stuff and end up delaying due to lack of people to fix release
>>>> issues.
>>> That's what I've tried to do:
>>> * M1 before christmas
>>> * RC1 after christmas (one week after)
>>> * Final after new year's eve (one week after)
>>>
>>> That was the best dates I was able to find unless we want to postpone by 1 
>>> month more…
>>>
>>> If you can think of better dates please suggest them.
>>
>> I agree with Eduard that between Xmas and NYE would be better than the 31th.
>>
>> If I were to be the RM, I'm would be more likely to prefer releasing RC1 on 
>> the 27th/28th or 29th rather than on the 31th.
>
> ah indeed you're right, I had missed that :)
>
> So new dates:
>
> * 4.4M1: 10th of December (in 2 week from now)
> * 4.4RC1: 17th of December
> * 4.4Final: 27th of December (between Xmas and NY)

+1

Thanks,
Marius

>
> Thanks!
> -Vincent
>
>> Jerome.
>>
>>>
>>>> Note: I am not familiar with how previous year releases around the holidays
>>>> worked out so, if, based on experience, you still consider that it's still
>>>> a good idea, please ignore my comments.
>>> It's probably a bit chaotic but I feel it's better than postponing by 1 
>>> month altogether, especially since want to be able to start the 5.x cycle 
>>> ASAP (we're all eager to start it :)) and also to slowly align it to the 
>>> beginning of the year.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Vincent
>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Eduard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 27, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Eduard Moraru <enygma2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi devs,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4.4 and 4.5 are the last 2 stabilization releases for the 4.x cycle. As
>>>>>>> such they are meant to be short releases (1 month per release) and the
>>>>> idea
>>>>>>> is to have:
>>>>>>> - 4.4: December
>>>>>>> - 4.5: January
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This will allow us to start working on 5.0 at the beginning of February.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thus for 4.4 (and 4.5) I propose to work on the following stabilizations
>>>>>>> (we shouldn't work on new features):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * AWM stabilization. Assignee: Marius
>>>>>>> ** Remove the i18n hack and use the new localization module to create a
>>>>>>> translation bundle for the application
>>>>>>> ** Add new field types (for page, image and attachment at least, with
>>>>>>> pickers)
>>>>>>> ** Improve the title and content fields (e.g. prevent dragging more than
>>>>>>> one title or content field)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Extension Manager. Specifically we still need to able to
>>>>> install/upgrade
>>>>>>> a wiki farm in a few minutes. Assignee: Thomas/Marius
>>>>>>> ** XWIKI-8252: Migration from an older version will cause many merge
>>>>>>> conflicts with the Distribution Manager
>>>>>>> ** XWIKI-8443: When uninstalling a XAR extension a question should be
>>>>>>> asked for various conflict use cases
>>>>>>> ** Find a way to allow having each wiki admin doing upgrade instead of
>>>>>>> upgrading the whole farm by a farm admin which don't always know how to
>>>>> fix
>>>>>>> conflict like in myxwiki.org for example
>>>>>>> ** XWIKI-8173 (EM should not allow installing package exposing an
>>>>>>> installed feature)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Translation module stabilizations/improvements. Assignee: Thomas
>>>>>>> ** XWIKI-8263 (Allow providing translations in a jar extension).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * SOLR improvements: we need to continue working on it and we can decide
>>>>>>> in the course of 4.4/4.5 if it's good enough to be made the default
>>>>> search
>>>>>>> or if we need to wait for 5.x to make it the default. Assignee: Edy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Usability: small usability improvements. Assignee: Caty/JV. Caty/JV,
>>>>>>> could you please list what you'd like to work on?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Workspace bug fixes (there are some raised by Anca for example).
>>>>>>> Assignee: Edy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * And a lot of bug fixes. Manuel reported a lot of browsers issue for IE
>>>>>>> that we need to fix
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anything else committers/contributors would like to work on for 4.4?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dates
>>>>>>> =====
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4.4M1: 17 Dec
>>>>>>> 4.4RC1: 31 Dec
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are we sure this is a realistic date?
>>>>> I don't understand what you mean. Because of Christmas? I already
>>>>> mentioned that I gave it one more week as we usually do because of this.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we should reconsider this
>>>>>> now, instead of (almost certainly) delaying it on the spot, and looking
>>>>> bad.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any date is a good date. Even one week from now is good date. You just
>>>>> need to adjust what you're going to tackle during the timeframe that's all
>>>>> (that's called timeboxing).
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> -Vincent
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Eduard
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4.4Final: 7 January
>>>>>>> Note that I'd have normally put RC1 on 24th but since that's the
>>>>> Christmas
>>>>>>> holidays, I've given RC1 2 weeks instead.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can everyone review what I've put tentatively and tell me if it's ok?
>>>>> Also
>>>>>>> could you create the associated JIRA issues and reply to this email with
>>>>>>> them so that I can prepare the roadmap page on xwiki.org?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks a lot
>>>>>>> -Vincent
>
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