2014-08-21 11:00 GMT+02:00 vinc...@massol.net <vinc...@massol.net>:

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> On 21 Aug 2014 at 10:57:36, Guillaume Louis-Marie Delhumeau (
> gdelhum...@xwiki.com(mailto:gdelhum...@xwiki.com)) wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > 2014-08-21 9:58 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) :
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > First of all we need to decide how prominent we want this
> functionality to
> > > be.
> > > I would make it more transparent, since theoretically you should change
> > > your language preference just once (in the Administration, and per
> user)
> > > and all the pages should be displayed according to that preference.
> This is
> > > not something that need to be highly visible and that you would change
> > > every day.
> >
> >
> > It's not true on a public wiki (like Wikipedia).
>
> That’s a good point, we need to agree which skin we’re discussing. AFAIK
> we’re discussing Flamingo which is NOT a public web site skin. When we do a
> public web site skin we would need to take this into consideration indeed.
>

To me Flamingo can be used for a public wiki (without the app bar), which
has not the same meaning as "public website" which is not necessary a
"wiki" (see:
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Leiothrix+Skin ).


>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> > > IMO it's more important to be better displayed when you want to
> > > create a new translation, than when you read one.
> > >
> > > Regarding the flag to represent languages you can read this comment
> with
> > > additional information about why we wouldn't do it like that
> > >
> > >
> http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-9512?focusedCommentId=77895&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-77895
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Caty
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Denis Gervalle wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Cathy,
> > > >
> > > > 2.1.1 is the one I prefer, 2.1.2 is also good but the separation
> between
> > > > language should be more clear, and it is less easy to see the active
> > > one. I
> > > > have no fear about the scaling issue, even heavily multilingual site
> like
> > > > those of the European Commission use such enumeration without issue.
> And
> > > as
> > > > Guillaume said, it is really rare to have more than a few languages
> > > anyway.
> > > > Other proposal implies multiple click/touch for the same purpose,
> which
> > > is
> > > > bad IMO for content. It is also important to only display effectively
> > > > available languages, but with an enum, it could be also good to have
> the
> > > > option to also display unavailable one greyed, so language keep their
> > > > location on screen.
> > > >
> > > > Regarding the UI language, 1.1 is fine, but maybe a bit large. Having
> > > only
> > > > initial in the bar would be better IMO. Having also a more fancy
> > > solution,
> > > > like what I have done with bluebird (see http://softec.lu), could be
> > > nice
> > > > to have as well... or a easy way to customize it that way with an
> > > > extension.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 5:34 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
> > > > vali...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi devs,
> > > > >
> > > > > We have http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10745 (Improve the
> display
> > > of
> > > > > available languages in Flamingo) which is related to
> > > > > http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-6402 (Separate Interface
> language
> > > and
> > > > > page language settings)
> > > > >
> > > > > While in Flamingo we could just make the language links look
> better,
> > > > > without changing the functionality, for the future, the separation
> is
> > > > > something we might want to tackle, that's why I've created this
> > > proposal
> > > > > page
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/InterfaceAndContentLanguageSeparation
> > > > >
> > > > > I am interested in what you think about the variants.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Caty
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