+1 I like the fact that we don't move things around and that we support old versions of XWiki.
We still need to clearly define what Base Flavor / Default Flavor include and how contrib users will create new Flavors on top of them. We still need to define the versioning scheme for the extensions that will go in the Default Flavor or in other possible future 'supported' contrib Flavors. (especially since you said they could have multiple releases) (maybe something like 8.2.1-x, although might be strange that you could install an 8.2.1-1 version of Tour in a 6.4 XWiki. Maybe we could use the year like 2016-1-1 or I don't know we need to think about it). And we need to see where we document what each Flavor contains and the procedure to add/remove extensions in the Flavors. Thanks, Caty On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Denis Gervalle <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 6:00 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hi devs, > > > > I’m transforming the brainstorming that was started in the thread > > http://markmail.org/message/exlndbq3tw2thmmu into a VOTE mail since this > > is a very important decision. > > > > So I’m asking you to vote for defining a new direction for the XWiki Core > > Dev Team (i.e. for the XWiki GitHub Organization). The need was triggered > > by the Tour and CKEditor extensions which are currently in xwiki-contrib > > and that we want our users to have by default. For more details see this > > thread: http://markmail.org/message/exlndbq3tw2thmmu > > > > So here’s the strategy: > > > > * Make XWiki Github org == minimal runtime, where minimal means “basic > > wiki” (page edition, history, linking, wiki markup, etc). The notion of > > “basic wiki” would need to be better defined but this can be done later > on. > > * Provide a "Base Flavor" which corresponds to this “basic wiki”, as part > > of xwiki-platform (this would be xwiki-platform-distribution). > > * Provide another flavor, the "Default Flavor” which would add some > > hand-picked third-party extensions (i.e. from contrib) such as the Tour > app > > and CKEditor (to start with, we could also add the markdown syntax for > > example which is one of the most asked syntaxes). Note that this Default > > Flavor would actually be a “replacement" of xwiki-enterprise. > > * The Default Flavor would have at least the same release cycle as the > > base flavor but it could have more releases (if some of the bundled > > third-party extensions has some important bug fixes or new features that > we > > want to offer quickly without waiting for the next base flavor release). > > * The consequence is that the XWiki Dev Team would need to be a bit more > > careful to monitor the quality of bundled third-party extensions in > contrib > > (check commits, do some smoke testing, etc). Note that the goal of the > > Default flavor would not be to offer verticals (for this there should be > > some contrib flavors) and thus it wouldn’t bundle a lot of third-party > > extensions. Basically we’ll need to validate the version of those > > third-party extensions that include in the flavor. > > > > My POV is that globally this would offer more flexibility for our users > > (they’ll be able to install extensions such as CK and Tour in older XWiki > > versions and they’ll get more frequent releases) at the cost of some > > overhead to develop extensions that work in several versions. The dev > team > > is pretty small and thus it means developing a bit less fast but it’s > > probably as important, if not more important, to make the code we develop > > available in older xwiki versions, as XWiki gains traction. > > > > IMO, the overhead will depends on the needs, but what will be a net > benefice is not to artificially raise extensions requirements when there is > no change, or when the change does not implies the need for a recent API. > > +1, of course :) > > > > > > Here’s my +1 > > > > Please cast your vote. > > > > Thanks > > -Vincent > > > > _______________________________________________ > > devs mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > -- > Denis Gervalle > SOFTEC sa - CEO > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
