On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 11:53 AM, Guillaume Delhumeau <
[email protected]> wrote:

> +1 for the solution 3:
> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/
> IdeaVisibleSave/smallViewPort.png


Hi Guillaume,

They are not separate proposals, just one, but it looks a bit different
when it's fixed at bottom, versus in its position. Just wanted to make that
clear.


>
>
> 2017-04-11 21:58 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <[email protected]>:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > > On 11 Apr 2017, at 21:25, Denis Gervalle <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Caty,
> > > Very happy to see progress in this area, this is a real pain to scroll
> > to the bottom of the document to save it, and there is a long time it is
> > affecting us.
> > > However, I am not really happy with your current proposal. I found the
> > text area for the version summary way too small for the purpose.
>

Beginner users sometimes don't know what that is for. Somebody asked me to
remove it all together :) you think it's too small :P


> It should
> > IMO stay on a separate line in order to be large enough. Since this not
> > always useful, it might, however, be collapsed somehow in certain
> > circumstances.
>

Currently it is on a separate line. I tried to integrate everything in a
single line, that will be always visible, although I agree we have many
functionalities (autosave, summary, minor, preview, etc.) and they look a
bit crowded.


> > > I also wonder if just having some buttons on the top in addition to the
> > bottom, wouldn’t be simpler and as efficient, even if the top feature is
> > limited (just save / save&view).
>

Usually save is a the bottom. Still the same view will be also in Full
Screen and the top area is already taken by the CkEditor controls, see
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/fullScreen.png

Thanks,
Caty


> It might also work with your fixed bottom
> > UI, that might also be more limited than what you can do by scrolling.
> > > I hope these are useful comments. I am also curious to see other
> > opinions on this important feature.
> >
> > For me, the issue with the always-on-bar is that it takes up space and
> > thus reduces the available vertical space for editing content. Thus I
> find
> > it interesting to have it on only one line and also to only have it at
> the
> > bottom and not repeat it at the top. I’d really not like to see it at the
> > top.
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Vincent
> >
> > > --
> > > Denis Gervalle
> > > SOFTEC sa - CEO
> > > On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 17:59, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > Hi devs,
> > >
> > > Some users have complained that when editing they don't know that they
> > need
> > > to scroll in order to see the Save buttons.
> > >
> > > This is a proposal that tackles:
> > > - Displaying the save buttons in a bottom area, when they are out of
> the
> > > viewport, see
> > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/
> > IdeaVisibleSave/bottomBar.png
> > > - Reorganizing the bottom zone in order to compact all the save
> functions
> > > into a single bar
> > > - When the user scrolls, the buttons go into their position, see
> > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/
> > IdeaVisibleSave/after.png
> > >
> > > For the whole proposal and more screenshots, see
> > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave
> > >
> > > WDYT?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Caty
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Guillaume Delhumeau ([email protected])
> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
> Committer on the XWiki.org project
>

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