On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Thomas Mortagne
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Krzysiek Płachno
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > Bintray JCenter may be connected even today using Maven Connector.
>>> >
>>> > Maven Connector does not allow for searching, but in the case of JCenter
>>> > that stores in the vast major non-xwiki extensions searching is
>>> > unnecessary.
>>>
>>> I don't think you understood the main goal of this project. The point
>>> is not to install XWiki stuff, Extension Manager can install any JARs
>>> and JCenter is full of useful JARs.
>>>
>>>
>> Yes - it seems that I misunderstood. The name of the project was "More
>> extension repositories" and in my application I wrote only about extensions.
>> But anyway it does not change a lot for my project - if as you wrote
>> "Extension Manager can install any JARs".
>
> All JARs are extensions from Extension Manager point of view. Even if
> most of them are not specific to XWiki, the XWiki specific extension
> themself trigger a lot of dependencies among JARs which don't have
> anything to do with XWiki because they use those. Also XWiki is not
> just a wiki, it's actually a development platform.
>
>>
>>
>>> Of course I can still prepare extension resolving artifacts and versions
>>> of
>>> > packages from Bintray via it's rest api, leaving space for future feature
>>> > of searching when Bintray's API will be richer. The question is what's
>>> more
>>> > usefull or needed.
>>>
>>> If it does not support search then it's useless.
>>
>>
>> It does support search but in very simple way as described on design page:
>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/MoreextensionrepositoriesArtifactoryBintray#Investigationreport2
>> searching goes only thorough names and descriptions.
>
> This is alrea

This is already nice IMO, I was not really expecting much more. Sure
it won't cover the whole Extension Repository search API but it's OK.

>
>>
>> So lets imagine that someone connects JCenter (Bintray) (with searching
>> feature) in it's Xwiki instance, goes to Extension Magager and search for
>> some extension putting e.g. LDAP. This will return a lot of results from
>> JCenter (completely not needed), among which there'll be XWiki LDAP
>> Authenticator extension - difficult to find.
>
> One more element to keep in mind: there is priority support in
> repository sources so if you give a low priority to JCenter it's going
> to appear after the result of the search on
> http://extensions.xwiki.org.
>
>>
>> I see two solutions:
>>  - not enabling searching at all for Bintray
>
> Would be it totally useless IMO.
>
>>  - enabling searching of Bintray but, adding in Extension Manager UI option
>> to select from which repository search
>
> Yes this is something we need to do anyway but it's out of scope for
> your GSOC so as you want.
>
>>
>> WDYT?
>>
>>
>>
>>> >
>>> > Best,
>>> > Krzysztof
>>> >
>>> > 2017-06-09 15:23 GMT+02:00 Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]>:
>>> >
>>> >> Very surprising, I really tough Bintray was a cloud of Artifactory
>>> >> instances...
>>> >>
>>> >> Since the main use case is to support Bintray jcenter I think you
>>> >> should concentrate on Bintray APi support only and skip Artifactory
>>> >> for now.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 3:12 PM, Krzysiek Płachno
>>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> > I've investigater Artifactory and Bintray APIs. They are totally
>>> >> different.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I updated desing page:
>>> >> > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/
>>> >> MoreextensionrepositoriesArtifactoryBintray
>>> >> >
>>> >> > 2017-06-08 11:35 GMT+02:00 Krzysiek Płachno <
>>> [email protected]>:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Ok - I got it (I confused in my mind ExtensionRepositorySource
>>> >> >> with ExtensionRepository)
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I'll compare in detail the apis of Artifactory and Bintray - if
>>> they're
>>> >> >> (almost) the same - it makes sense to do it as you described.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> KP
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> 2017-06-08 11:26 GMT+02:00 Thomas Mortagne <
>>> [email protected]>:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Krzysiek Płachno
>>> >> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >>> > Ok - then.
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > So:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> > 1. Do I understand well that the advantage of Rest connection over
>>> >> >>> native
>>> >> >>> > Maven connection is that when using maven we cannot search repo?
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Yes you don't have live search in standard Maven repository. In some
>>> >> >>> repository you can download an index but that's all.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> > 2. The goal would be to produce an extension with two components
>>> >> >>> > ExtensionRepositoryFactory:  'bintray' and 'artifactory' which
>>> >> sharing
>>> >> >>> the
>>> >> >>> > same logic will allow to connect Bintray and Artifactory? Or just
>>> >> >>> > one ExtensionRepositoryFactory with name 'artifactory' to be used
>>> >> also
>>> >> >>> for
>>> >> >>> > both? This naming is a bit important since in xwiki.properties
>>> whilst
>>> >> >>> > giving url to external repo user also gives type of repo. (As
>>> >> >>> > regards ExtensionRepositorySource components - they are completely
>>> >> >>> hidden
>>> >> >>> > so it may be one for both Artifactory and Bintray)
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> If Bintray use Artifactory REST API then there should be only one
>>> >> >>> 'artifactory' ExtensionRepositoryFactory.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> ExtensionRepositorySource point is to provide default repository
>>> (for
>>> >> >>> example extensions.xwiki.org or nexus.xwiki.org) so it only make
>>> sense
>>> >> >>> for Bintray jcenter (unless jcenter does not expose REST API). I
>>> >> >>> totally skipped the fact that anyone was able to create a Bintray
>>> >> >>> instance and I was actually only thinking about jcenter.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > KP
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > 2017-06-07 10:12 GMT+02:00 Thomas Mortagne <
>>> >> [email protected]>:
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> >> Some comments:
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >> The difference between Artifactory and Bintray you are describing
>>> >> >>> >> don't really matter for your use case IMO.
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >> The only thing you should deal with are:
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >> * downloading artifacts
>>> >> >>> >> * searching for artifacts (that is actually the only feature
>>> brought
>>> >> >>> >> by this extension since as you said you can download artifacts
>>> >> through
>>> >> >>> >> Maven access)
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >> and AFAIK those two features have the same API in both cases
>>> since
>>> >> >>> >> Bintray is essentially a public Artifactory instance.
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >> So unless I really missing something here you should IMO work on
>>> two
>>> >> >>> >> extensions (on just two component in the same extension):
>>> >> >>> >> * an ExtensionRepositoryFactory for Artifactory
>>> >> >>> >> * a ExtensionRepositorySource which automatically register
>>> Bintray
>>> >> >>> >> with the type "artifactory"
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Krzysiek Płachno
>>> >> >>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >>> >> > Hey!
>>> >> >>> >> >
>>> >> >>> >> > I investigated a bit Binatray and Artifactory and uploaded
>>> >> relatively
>>> >> >>> >> short
>>> >> >>> >> > raport:
>>> >> >>> >> > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/
>>> >> >>> >> MoreextensionrepositoriesArtifactoryBintray
>>> >> >>> >> >
>>> >> >>> >> > Any comments, ideas, relfections - highly appreciated.
>>> >> >>> >> >
>>> >> >>> >> >
>>> >> >>> >> > Best,
>>> >> >>> >> > Krzysztof Płachno
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >> --
>>> >> >>> >> Thomas Mortagne
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> --
>>> >> >>> Thomas Mortagne
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Thomas Mortagne
>>> >>
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thomas Mortagne
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